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Let $(X, \mathcal B, m)$ be a measure space. For $1 \leq p < q \leq \infty$, under what condition is it true that $L^q(X, \mathcal B, m) \subset L^p(X, \mathcal B, m)$ and what is a counterexample in the case the condition is not satisfied?

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  • Do you want $L^q(X,\mathcal B,m)$ to be any subset of $L^p(X,\mathcal B, m)$, or a proper subset? Also did you mean $p \leq q$ or something else in the question? – Srivatsan Sep 20 '11 at 10:23
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lp_space#Embeddings –  Sep 20 '11 at 10:23
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    You should also consider the counting measure on a finite set - what happens in this case? – AD - Stop Putin - Sep 20 '11 at 12:25
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    The question has been effectively answered by the answers below in the case of finite spaces. For infinite spaces it may be interesting to read: http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/55170/is-it-possible-for-a-function-to-be-in-lp-for-only-one-p – Ragib Zaman Sep 20 '11 at 12:50
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    Related: http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/1371017/are-there-relations-between-elements-of-lp-spaces/1371051#1371051 – Watson Jun 06 '16 at 16:57
  • If your space contains sets of arbitrarily large positive measure then $L^q\not\subset L^p$ if your space contains sets of arbitrarily small positive measure then $L^p \not\subset L^q$.. – homosapien Mar 13 '24 at 15:56

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Theorem Let $X$ be a finite measure space. Then, for any $1\leq p< q\leq +\infty$ $$L^q(X, \mathcal B, m) \subset L^p(X, \mathcal B, m).$$ The proof follows from Hölder inequality. Note that $\frac{1}{p}=\frac{1}{q}+\frac{1}{r}$, with $r>0$. Hence $$\|f\|_{L^p}\leq\text{meas }(X)^{1/r}\|f\|_{L^q}.$$

The case reported on the Wikipedia link of commenter answer follows from this, since of course, if $X$ does not contain sets of arbitrary large measure, $X$ itself can't have an arbitrary large measure.

For the counterexample: $f(x)=\frac{1}{x}$ belongs to $L^2([1,+\infty))$, but clearly it does not belong to $L^1([1,+\infty)).$

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I would like to add other lines to this interesting topic. Namely, I would like to prove what is mentioned in Wikipedia, hope it is correct:

Theorem Suppose $(X,\mathcal B,m)$ is a measure space such that, for any $1\leq p<q\leq +\infty,$ $$L^q(X, \mathcal B, m) \subset L^p(X, \mathcal B, m).$$ Then $X$ doesn't contain sets of arbitrarily large measure.

Indeed it is well defined the embedding operator $G:L^q(X, \mathcal B, m) \to L^p(X, \mathcal B, m)$, and it is bounded.

Indeed the inclusion $L^q(X,\mathcal B,m)\subset L^p(X,\mathcal B,m)$ is continuous. Convergence in $L^p$ and in $L^q$ imply convergence almost everywhere and we can conclude by the closed graph theorem.

By Hölder inequality, $$\|f\|_{L^p}\leq\text{meas }(X)^{1/r}\|f\|_{L^q}.$$ This means $$\|G\|\leq \text{meas}(X)^{1/r}=\text{meas}(X)^{1/p-1/q}.$$ But, considering $f(x)=\chi_X(x)$, one sees that $$\|G\|=\text{meas }(X)^{1/r}<+\infty \Leftrightarrow \text{meas }(X)<+\infty.$$ Now we can proceed by density of the vector space of the simple functions in both $L^p(X,\mathcal B,m)$ and $L^q(X,\mathcal B,m).$

Theorem Let $(X,\mathcal B,m)$ be a measure space. Then $X$ doesn't contain sets of arbitrarily small measure if and only if for any $1\leq p<q\leq +\infty$, one has $$L^p(X, \mathcal B, m) \subset L^q(X, \mathcal B, m).$$

Let us suppose that, for any subset $Y\subseteq X,\quad Y\in\mathcal B$, we have $0<\alpha\leq\text{meas}(Y)$.

It sufficies to prove the statement for simple functions. Pick now $$f(x) =\sum_{j=1}^n a_j\chi_{E_j},$$ where $\{E_j\}_{j=1,\dots,n}$ is a collection of disjoint subsets of $\mathcal B.$ Then $$\|f\|_{L^q} \le \sum_{j=1}^n \|a_j\text{meas}(E_j)\|_{L^q} = \sum_{j=1}^n a_j\text{meas}(E_j)^{1/q}=\sum_{j=1}^n a_j\text{meas}(E_j)^{1/q-1/p+1/p}\leq\frac{1}{\alpha^{1/p-1/q}}\|f\|_{L^p}.$$
The first inequality is due to Minkowski inequality.

For the converse of the theorem note that again it is well defined the embedding operator $G:L^p(X,\mathcal B,m)\to L^q(X,\mathcal B,m)$, and the operator is bounded. Now consider that, for any subset $Y\subset X$, $Y\in\mathcal B$, the function $$g_Y(x)=\frac{\chi_Y(x)}{(\text{meas(Y)})^{1/p}}$$ satisfies $$\|g_Y\|_{L^q}= \frac{1}{(\text{meas}(Y))^{1/p-1/q}}. $$ But then, for any $Y\subset X$, $Y\in\mathcal B$, we have $$\frac{1}{(\text{meas}(Y))^{1/p-1/q}}\leq \|G\|,$$ which means $$0<\frac{1}{\|G\|^{1/p-1/q}}\leq \text{meas}(Y).$$ Hence the result is proved.

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uforoboa
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    A slightly better counterexample is given by $f_p(x)=x^{-1/p}$; this function belongs to $L^q(1,\infty)\setminus L^p(1,\infty)$ provided $q>p$. – AD - Stop Putin - Sep 20 '11 at 12:23
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    In the second theorem (the first after the add), how do you show that the embedding $G\colon L^q\to L^p$ is bounded? – Davide Giraudo Sep 20 '11 at 16:02
  • What's is a definition of meas(X)? – juaninf Nov 09 '12 at 23:06
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    I'm sure you made a mistake in the proof of the last theorem. Now suppose $f$ is a simple function, i.e. $f(x)=\sum_{j=1}^n a_j\chi_{E_j}$, where $E_j$ are disjoint, the $L^q$ norm of $f$ should be $$|f|{L^q}=\left(\sum{j=1}^n a_j^q\mu(E_j)\right)^{1/q}$$. – Xiang Yu Oct 16 '15 at 10:24
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    @juaninf Most probably, $\operatorname{meas}X=m(X)$ is the $m$-measure of $X$. – 0xbadf00d May 02 '17 at 13:21
  • When you say sets of "arbitrarily small measure" I'm assuming this is disregarding measure $0$ sets? – ABIM Jan 13 '20 at 12:47
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    But how can you apply Holder inequality if measure of $X$ isn't finite?! – Not Euler Oct 27 '20 at 12:05
  • hi @uforoboa how one can show that if p<q then it is not true that $||f||_p<||f||_q$ in the measure space $(N,P(N),\mu)$ where $\mu$ id the counting measure? – user652838 Nov 30 '20 at 17:47
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    I think your proof of the first theorem after the ADD, as stated, is incorrect. You wrote in the proof: "By Hölder inequality, $$|f|{L^p}\leq\text{meas }(X)^{1/r}|f|{L^q}."$$ But, by applying Hölder inequality in this way, you are (implicitly) assuming that $\chi_X \in L^q$, which means $X$ has finite measure. However, the fact that $X$ has finite measure is exactly what you want to prove. – Ramiro Dec 12 '20 at 17:44
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In Rudin's book Real an complex analysis, we can find the following result, shown by Alfonso Villani:

Let $(X,\mathcal B,m)$ be a $\sigma$-finite measure space, where $m$ is a non-negative measure. Then the following conditions are equivalent:

  1. We have $L^p(X,\mathcal B,m)\supset L^q(X,\mathcal B,m)$ for some $p,q$ with $1\leqslant p<q<\infty$.
  2. $m(X)<\infty$.
  3. We have $L^p(X,\mathcal B,m)\supset L^q(X,\mathcal B,m)$ for all $p,q$ with $1\leqslant p<q<\infty$.

We only have to show that $1.\Rightarrow 2.$ and $2.\Rightarrow 3.$ since $3.\Rightarrow 1.$ is obvious.

$1.\Rightarrow 2.$: the inclusion $L^q(X,\mathcal B,m)\subset L^p(X,\mathcal B,m)$ is continuous. Indeed, let $\{f_n\}$ be a sequence in $L^q$ which converges to $f$ for the $L^q$ norm, and to $g$ for the $L^p$ norm. We extract a subsequence which converges almost everywhere to $f$ and $g$ (first extract a subsequence $\{f_{n_j}\}$ which converges to $f$ almost surely; this sequence still converges to $g$ for the $L^p$ norm; now extract from this sequence a subsequence which converges to $g$ almost surely), hence $f=g$, and by the closed graph theorem we get the conclusion since both $L^p$ and $L^q$ are Banach spaces.

Therefore, we can find $C>0$ such that $\lVert f\rVert_p\leqslant C\lVert f\rVert_q$. Since $X$ can be written as an increasing union of finite measure sets $A_n$, we get that $m(A_n)^{\frac 1p}\leqslant Cm(A_n)^{\frac 1q}$, hence $m(A_n)^{\frac{q-p} {pq}}\leqslant C$ and since $p\neq q$: $m(A_n)\leqslant C^{\frac{pq}{p-q}}$. Now we take the limit $n\to\infty$ to get $m(X)\leqslant C^{\frac{pq}{p-q}}$.

$2.\Rightarrow 3.$: let $1\leqslant p<q<\infty$ and $f\in L^q$. We put $E_n:= \left\{x\in X: \frac 1{n+1}\leqslant |f(x)|\lt\frac 1n\right\}$ for $n\in\mathbb N^*$. The sets $\{E_n\}$ are pairwise disjoint and by $2.$ we get $\displaystyle\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} m(E_n)<\infty$. The function $f$ is integrable because \begin{align*} \int_X |f|^pdm &=\int_{\{|f|\geq 1\}}|f|^pdm+\sum_{n=1}^{+\infty}\int _{E_n}|f|^pdm\\\ &\leqslant\int_X |f|^qdm+\sum_{n=1}^{+\infty}\frac 1{n^p}m(E_n)\\\ &\leqslant \int_X |f|^qdm+\sum_{n=1}^{+\infty}m(E_n)<\infty. \end{align*} Now we look at the case $q=+\infty$. If $m(E)<\infty$, since for each $f\in L^q$ we can find $C_f$ such that $|f|\leqslant C_f$ almost everywhere, we can see $f\in L^p$ for all $p$. Conversely, if $L^{\infty}\subset L^p$ for a finite $p$, then the function $f=1$ is in $L^p$ and we should have $m(E)<\infty$.

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  • I don't see how you can just pick one subsequence in step 1 that converges to bot $f$ and $g$. It seems you can you just pick one for $f$ (or $g$), using Theorem 4.9 in Breviz, but how can you pick one that converges to both? – csss Apr 09 '16 at 14:25
  • I have added details. – Davide Giraudo Apr 13 '16 at 09:33
  • Shouldn't the $p,q$ verify $1\leqslant p<q \leq\infty$ at all steps instead of $1\leqslant p<q<\infty$? Bounded (essentially) function $f$ in a finite measure set implies $f \in L^p$ $\forall p \geq 1$. i.e. $L^{\infty} \subset L^p$. – D1X Jun 16 '16 at 19:05
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There is a easy way to show that. Suppose that $p<q$ and X a space measure finite. Take any $f\in L^q$. Then, the q-norm is finite. In this way, $$\int_X|f|^p = \int_{f(x)<1}|f|^p + \int_{f\geq1}|f|^p \leq\int1+\int_{f\geq1}|f|^q\leq\mu(X)+||f||_q^q<\infty$$ A counter example just take $$f(x)=\frac{1}{x}$$ for $x\in(0,\infty)$ and Lebesgue measure. Then $f$ belongs to $L^2$ (integral is 1) but not $L^1$.

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This is to show that the restriction $1\leq p<q\leq\infty$ in the OP is not needed, and that the following result holds:

Theorem A: Suppose $(\Omega,\mathscr{F},\mu)$ is a $\sigma$-finite measure space. There exists $p,q$ with $0<p<q\leq\infty$ such that $L_q(\mu)\subset L_p(\mu)$ iff $\mu(X)<\infty$.

Sufficiency follows directly from Hölder's inequality. In fact, if $0<p<q\leq\infty$, $$\int_X|f|^p\,d\mu\leq \|f\|^p_q\big(\mu(X)\big)^{1-\tfrac{p}{q}}$$

Necessity can be shown using the simple and elegant argument described in Davide's posting. First some general observations about $L_p(\mu)$ spaces with $0<p<\infty$. To ease notation, we define $\|f\|_p=\Big(\int_X|f|^p\,d\mu\Big)^{1/p}$.

  1. The function $d_p:L_p(\mu)\times L_p(\mu)\rightarrow[0,\infty)$ given by $$d_p(f, g)=\Big(\int_X|f-g|^p\,d\mu\Big)^{\min(1,1/p)}=\|f-g\|_p^{\min(p,1)}$$ defines a complete translation invariant metric on $L_p(\mu)$, and so, $(L_p(\mu),d_p)$ is an $F$-space. (Of course when $p\geq1$, $L_p(\mu)$ is a Banach space with norm $\|f\|_p=d_p(0,f)$; for $0<p<1$, see this posting).
  2. The sets $B_p(0;r)=\{f\in L_p(\mu): d_p(0,f)<r\}$ form a local basis of neighborhoods for $(L_p(\mu),d_p)$.
  3. For any $r>0$, $B_p(0;r)=r^{\max(1,1/p)}B_p(0;1)$.

Now recall the general versions of the Closed Graph Theorem in the setting of $F$-spaces.

Theorem: Suppose $X$ and $Y$ are $F$-spaces. If $\Lambda:X\rightarrow Y$ is linear and its graph $G=\{(x,\Lambda x):x\in X\}$ is closed in $X\times Y$, then $\Lambda$ is continuous (and thus bounded since $X$ and $Y$ are metrizable).

This can be sen for example in Rudin, W., Functional Analysis, McGraw-Hill, second edition, 1991, pp. 51


Now we have all the ingredients to modify Davide's proof to the present setting. Suppose $L_q(\mu)\subset L_p(\mu)$ for some $0<p<q<\infty$. Consider the inclusion map $\iota: L_q(\mu)\rightarrow L_p(\mu)$. The continuity of $\iota$ follows from the Closed Graph Theorem just as explained by Davide: Suppose $(f_n:n \in\mathbb{N})\subset L_q(\mu)$ is a sequence which converges in $L_q(\mu)$ to some $f\in L_q(\mu)$, and which also converges in $L_p(\mu)$ to some $g\in L_p(\mu)$. Along a subsequence $f_{n'}$, $|f-f_{n'}|^q\rightarrow0$ $\mu$-a.s. Then, along a subsequence $f_{n''}$ of $f_{n'}$, $|f_{n''}-g|^p\rightarrow0$ $\mu$-a.s. It then follows that $f=g$ $\mu$-a.s. and so $\iota$ is bounded.

The key to extend the statement of the OP to the present setting is to understand how bounded sets in general $L_p(\mu)$ spaces look like.

Claim: For any $0<r\leq \infty$, $E\subset L_r(\mu)$ is bounded iff $$\sup\left\{f\in E: \|f\|_r\right\}<\infty$$

Proof: By definition (see Rudin, cit. op.) $E$ is bounded iff for any open neighborhood $U$ of $0$ in $L_p(\mu)$ there is $s>0$ such that $E\subset sU=\{sf: f\in U\}$. Notice that $$\|\lambda f\|^{\min(r,1)}_r=d_r(0,\lambda f)=\lambda^{\min(r,1)}\,d_r(0,f)=\lambda^{\min(r,1)}\|f\|^{\min(1,r)}_r$$ The conclusion of the claim follows immediately from observations (2) and (3), and by taking $U=B_r(0;1)$.

In particular, by observation (3) we have that any ball $\overline{B}_p(0;r)=\{f\in L_p(\mu):d_p(0,f)\leq r\}$ is bounded in $L_p(\mu)$.

By the continuity of $\iota$, $\overline{B}_q(0;1)$ is bounded in $L_p(\mu)$ since $\overline{B}_q(0;1)$ is bounded in $L_q(\mu)$. This means that $$c:=\sup_{f\in \overline{B}_q(0;1)}\|f\|_p<\infty$$

Notice that for any $f\in L_q(\mu)\setminus\{0\}$, $\frac{1}{\|f\|_q}f\in \overline{B}_q(0;1)$. Hence $$\|f\|_p\leq c\|f\|_q,\qquad f\in L_q(\mu)$$ Let $(A_n:n\in\mathbb{N})\subset\mathcal{F}$ such that $A_m\nearrow \Omega$. Then $$\big(\mu(A_n)\big)^{\tfrac{1}{p}-\tfrac{1}{q}}\leq c$$ whence we conclude that $\mu(X)\leq c^{\tfrac{pq}{q-p}}<\infty$.

Finally the case $0<p<q=\infty$ is simpler for if $L_\infty(\mu)\subset L_p(\mu)$, then as $f\equiv1\in L_\infty(\mu)$, $$\|f\|_p=\big(m(X)\big)^{1/p}<\infty$$

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I'd like to provide a proof of a result mentioned in @uforoboa's answer, in which the proof seems questionable.

Theorem Let $1 \leq p < q < \infty$, and $(X, \it{M}, \mu)$ be a measure space. If $\exists c > 0$ such that for all $A \in \it{M}$ either $\mu(A) = 0$ or $\mu(A) \geq c$, then $L^p(X, \mu) \subset L^q(X, \mu)$.

Proof: Let $f$ be a function in $L^p(X, \mu)$. By Tchebyshev's inequality,$$\mu(E_t) \leq (\frac{\|f\|_p}{t})^t$$ where $E_t = \{x:|f(x)| > t\}$. Note when $t > \|f\|_p$, $\:(\frac{\|f\|_p}{t})^t \to 0$ as $t \to \infty$.
That is to say, $\exists T > \|f\|_p$ such that, $$\mu(E_T) < (\frac{\|f\|_p}{T})^T < c$$ Hence $$\mu(E_T) = 0$$ Then $$\|f\|_q^q = \int |f|^q = \int_{E_T}|f|^q + \int_{E^c_T}|f|^q = \int_{E_T^c}|f|^q$$ Since $|f| \leq T$ on $E^c_T$ and $p < q$, $$\|f\|_q^q = \int_{E_T^c}|f|^q = \int_{E_T^c}|f|^p|f|^{q-p} \leq T^{q-p}\int_{E_T^c}|f|^p \leq T^{q-p}\|f\|_p^p < \infty$$ By we which we conclude $f \in L^q(X, \mu)$ as desired.

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Alternatively one can take into account this proposition.

$\textbf{Proposition. }$Let $(X, \mathcal{A}, \mu)$ a finite measure space. Let $f$ be $\mathcal{A}$-measurable function and let $E_{n} = \{x \in X: (n - 1) \leq \lvert f (x) \rvert < n\}$. Then $f \in L^{p}(X)$ if and only if $$\sum_{n = 1}^{\infty} n^{p} \mu(E_{n}) < + \infty.$$

Using this proposition, we have that for $1 \leq q < p$, if $f \in L^{p}(X)$ then $$ \sum_{n = 1}^{\infty} n^{q} \mu(E_{n}) \leq \sum_{n = 1}^{\infty} n^{p} \mu(E_{n}) < + \infty. $$ Hence $f \in L^{q}(X)$. So we have the inclusion $$ L_{p}(X) \subset L_{q}(X). $$

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I would like to provide a proof restricted to probability space. Recall that Jensen's inequality states that if $X$ is a random variable and $c$ is a convex function: $$ \mathbb{E}(c(x)) \geq c(\mathbb{E}(x)) $$

Then let $1 \leq p < q < \infty$, and set $c(x):=x^{\frac{q}{p}}$, since $\frac{q}{p}$ is greater than 1, then $c$ is convex, so for any $X \in L^q(\Omega, \mathcal{F}, \mathbb{P})$ $$||x||_p = (\mathbb{E}(|x|^p))^{\frac{1}{p}} = (c(\mathbb{E}(|x|^p)))^{\frac{1}{q}} \leq (\mathbb{E}(c(|x|^p)))^{\frac{1}{q}} = (\mathbb{E}(|x|^q))^{\frac{1}{q}} = ||x||_q$$ Then $||x||_p$ is well defined, this implies $X \in L^p(\Omega, \mathcal{F}, \mathbb{P})$, so $$ L^q(\Omega, \mathcal{F}, \mathbb{P}) \subseteq L^p(\Omega, \mathcal{F}, \mathbb{P}) $$ However, I don't think this proof works for general finite measure space since Jensen's inequality only works for probability space. See the related answer

Does Jensen's inequality still hold in general finite measure space?