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A First Course in Complex Analysis by Matthias Beck, Gerald Marchesi, Dennis Pixton, and Lucas Sabalka Exer 2.16

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I have questions on Part II of the same exercise asked here: $f(z)=u(x,y)+iv(x,y), u$ and $v$ are differentiable. Is $f$ differentiable?

$\label{1}{1}$. Is this ambiguous, but probably meant to say something like

if $u$ and $v$ are $\mathbb R^2-$ differentiable at a point $\mathbb R^2 \ni (x,y)$, then f is $\mathbb C-$ differentiable at the corresponding point point $\mathbb C \ni z=x+iy $

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I hadn't considered $\mathbb R-$ vs $\mathbb C-$ differentiable.

$\label{2}{2}$. Is $f$ $\mathbb C-$differentiable if $u$ and $v$ are if $u$ and $v$ are $\mathbb C-$differentiable?

I think yes. Here is my reasoning. What are the errors, if any?

$$f'(z) := \lim_{h \to 0}\frac{f(z+h)-f(z)}{h} = \lim_{h \to 0}\frac{u(z+h)+iv(z+h)-u(z)-iv(z)}{h}$$

$$ = \lim_{h \to 0}\frac{u(z+h)-u(z)}{h} + i\lim_{h \to 0}\frac{v(z+h)-v(z)}{h} = u'(z)+iv'(z)$$

$\therefore, f$ is $\mathbb C$-differentiable at $z_0$ if $u$ and $v$ are complex differentiable. Furthermore, the $\mathbb C$-differentiability of $f$ is concluded by Definition (see end) and not by Cauchy-Riemann Thm 2.13(b) (see end). QED

$\label{3}{3}$. If $u$ and $v$ are complex differentiable, then do we have $f'(z)=u'(z)=v'(z)=0$ ?

I think yes. Here is my reasoning. What are the errors, if any?

I also hadn't considered that $u$ and $v$ are actually $\mathbb R$-valued. I cannot apply Exer 2.19 (see below), but by similar reasoning, I deduce that with Cauchy-Riemann Thm 2.13(a) and by the complex differentiability of $u$ at $z$, $u'(z)=0$. Similarly, $v'(z)=0$. $\therefore, f'(z)=0+i0=0.$ QED

$\label{4}{4}$. Is $f$ $\mathbb R^2-$differentiable if $u$ and $v$ are $\mathbb R^2-$differentiable?

It seems yes based on other question, but how would you prove it? Here is my reasoning. What are the errors, if any?

  • 4.1. This book doesn't seem to have an explicit definition of $\mathbb R^2-$differentiability of a $\mathbb C$-function based on my other question, but I guess it's to do with treating $f=f(x,y)$ and $i$ as if $i$ were a $\mathbb R$-constant.

  • 4.2. I thought to go back to the $\mathbb R^2-$differentiability in Stewart Calculus 14.4.7, but if $i$ is indeed treated as a $\mathbb R$-constant, then $f$ is a linear combination of $\mathbb R^2-$differentiable functions and $\therefore$ $\mathbb R^2-$differentiable.

Note: 4.1 is about definition. 4.2. is about the argument assuming my definition is the same as the book's reasonably deduced implicit definition, the book's explicit definition that I overlooked or some widely accepted definition of $R^2-$differentiability of a $\mathbb C$-function.

$\label{5}{5}$. Actually, $f$ is $\mathbb R^2-$differentiable only if $u$ and $v$ are $\mathbb R^2$-differentiable, by similar reasoning as in 4 whence

f is $\mathbb R^2$-differentiable $\iff$ $\Re(f)$ and $\Im(f)$ are $\mathbb R^2$-differentiable

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$\label{6}{6}$. Is $f$ not necessarily $\mathbb C-$differentiable if $u$ and $v$ are if $u$ and $v$ are $\mathbb R^2-$differentiable?

Okay, so the answer is yes, answered in the aforementioned question again linked here. Here is my reasoning. What are the errors, if any?

As in the aforementioned question, $f(z)=\overline{z}=x-iy$ is not $\mathbb C-$differentiable. Instead of proving this directly with Cauchy-Riemann Thm 2.13(b), I will prove by contradiction and by considering $f$'s components:

Argument 1: If we try to write its derivative as $f'(z)=u'(z)+iv'(z)$, we see $f'(z)$ dne because the two addends $u'(z)$ and $iv'(z)$ do not exist because $u(z)$ and $v(z)$, while $\mathbb R^2$-differentiable, are not $\mathbb C$ differentiable, this time deduced by Cauchy-Riemann Thm 2.13(b). QED

Argument 1 rephrased: If we try to write $\overline{z}$'s derivative as $(\overline{z})'=(\Re(\overline{z}))'+i(\Im(\overline{z}))'$, we see $(\overline{z})'$ dne because the two addends $(\Re(\overline{z}))'$ and $i(\Im(\overline{z}))'$ do not exist because $\Re(\overline{z})$ and $\Im(\overline{z})$, while $\mathbb R^2$-differentiable, are not $\mathbb C$ differentiable, this time deduced by Cauchy-Riemann Thm 2.13(b). QED

Argument 2: (Same as Argument 1 except the last phrase) If we try to write $\overline{z}$'s derivative as $(\overline{z})'=(\Re(\overline{z}))'+i(\Im(\overline{z}))'$, we see $(\overline{z})'$ dne because the two addends $(\Re(\overline{z}))'$ and $i(\Im(\overline{z}))'$ do not exist because $\Re(\overline{z})=\Re(z)$ and $\Im(\overline{z})=-\Im(z)$, while $\mathbb R^2$-differentiable, are not $\mathbb C$ differentiable, because they don't satisfy C-R...which is a vacuous truth because they do satisfy C-R. Instead, we can prove by definition: $$\lim_{h \to 0} \frac{\Re(z+h)-\Re(z)}{h} = \lim_{h \to 0} \frac{h_x}{h_x+ihy}$$

This does not exist because along $h_x=0$, $\lim=0$ while along $h_y=0$, $\lim=1$.

Similarly,

$$\lim_{h \to 0} \frac{-\Im(z+h)+\Im(z)}{h} = \lim_{h \to 0} \frac{-h_y}{h_x+ihy}$$

This does not exist because along $h_y=0$, $\lim=0$ while along $h_x=0$, $\lim=i$.

Argument 3: Same as argument 2 except that I say that the parts are not complex differentiable and hence $f$ is not complex differentiable, but I see why is this wrong as well.

$\label{7}{7}$. If Reasoning in 6 (Argument 1) is right, then we actually have additionally proved (hope none of those modifiers were misplaced!) that

f is $\mathbb C$-differentiable $\iff$ $\Re(f)$ and $\Im(f)$ are $\mathbb C$-differentiable

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(Note: Vacuous truths acceptable! Hehe) --> i.e. Update: Reasoning in 6 was (Argument 1 is) wrong, conclusion is wrong, but conclusion is right if Argument 1 is right! Hehe


Definition of $\mathbb C$-differentiability

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Cauchy-Riemann Thm 2.13(a)(b)

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Exer 2.19

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    I'm guessing that $u,v$ map into $\mathbb{R}$, so unless they are constant, they will not be $\mathbb{C}$-differentiable – mathworker21 Aug 03 '18 at 10:03
  • @mathworker21 Thanks! I wanted to avoid saying they 'constant' on some subset of $\mathbb C$ and instead wanted to just focus on their resp derivatives at a point $z \in \mathbb C$. Anyhoo, do you mean your answers to 2 and 3 are affirmative? – BCLC Aug 03 '18 at 10:13
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    (3) No. u(z)=v(z)=z, and $f(z)=u+iv=(1+i)z$ are all complex differentiable and have non-zero derivatives: $u'(z)=v'(z)=1$ and $f'(z)=1+i$. –  Aug 03 '18 at 10:22
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    You lost me when you mentioned Stewart Calculus. Throw that garbage into the trash. Learn from a proper book like Spivak's, even wikipedia's article. –  Aug 03 '18 at 10:25
  • @spiralstotheleft $u,v \in \mathbb R$, $u = \Re(f), v = \Im(f)$. Does your comment change? Thanks! LOL at your Stewart comment. He was cool. RIP Stewart. – BCLC Aug 03 '18 at 10:28
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    (6) Is also incorrect. $f$ can satisfy the Cauchy-Riemann equations while its real and imaginary parts don't. Actually, this happens for almost all function with complex derivatives. –  Aug 03 '18 at 10:28
  • @spiralstotheleft (6) is a tag question. It says 'not necessarily'. Does your comment change? Thanks! – BCLC Aug 03 '18 at 10:29
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    @BCLC If you are assuming in (3) that $u,v$ are the real and imaginary part, then even worse, $u'$ and $v'$ don't exits unless they are constant. –  Aug 03 '18 at 10:29
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    For (6) the property is correct. What are I am saying is that your argument for proving that $\overline{z}$ is not complex differentiable is what is wrong. –  Aug 03 '18 at 10:30
  • @spiralstotheleft So yeah there's a possibility they are differentiable however trivially (Edit: 'trivially' was previously 'exceptionally'. I was thinking 'vacuously'). Theoretically (mathematically), that's better, but practically that's worse? – BCLC Aug 03 '18 at 10:31
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    (7) is definitely wrong. –  Aug 03 '18 at 10:31
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    Functions that return only real numbers (like you are assuming $u$ and $v$ do) have complex derivatives on an open set, only when they are constant. –  Aug 03 '18 at 10:32
  • @spiralstotheleft Re (6) ah thanks. I believe I said that $u$ and $v$ don't satisfy C-R and thus are not complex differentiable. The lack of complex differentiability and not lack of satisfying C-R is what makes me say that $f$ is not complex differentiability. Is that wrong? Or is that right but not what I initially said? – BCLC Aug 03 '18 at 10:33
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    That is what is wrong. The conclusion from $u,v$ not satisfying Cauchy-Riemann equations (as a pair) is not that they don't have complex derivative, it is that $f$ doesn't have it. It is true that $u,v$ don't have complex derivative, but the lack of it for $f$ is not deduced from the lack of complex derivatives for $u,v$. It is deduced from the failure of Cauchy-Riemann equations. –  Aug 03 '18 at 10:34
  • @spiralstotheleft Re (7) I didn't exclude possibility of being constant. So if $f$ is complex differentiable, I'd think its parts are complex differentiable even if they constant. Or are constants inherently not complex differentiable? I mean $\lim_{h \to 0} \frac{u(z+h)-u(z)}{h} = \lim_{h \to 0} \frac{0}{h} = 0$? – BCLC Aug 03 '18 at 10:36
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    No. $f(x+iy)=x+i$ is complex differentiable. Its real and imaginary parts $u(x+iy)=x$ and $v(x+iy)=y$ don't have complex derivatives. Directly from the definition $\lim_{h+ig\to0}\frac{u((x+iy)+(h+ig))-u(x+iy)}{h+ig}=\lim_{h+ig\to0}\frac{h}{h+ig}=\lim_{h+ig\to0}\frac{h^2-igh}{h^2+g^2}$. Tending to zero along $(h,0)$ the limit is $1$, while tending along $(0,g)$ the limit is $0$. –  Aug 03 '18 at 10:38
  • @spiralstotheleft Re (6) Ah I think I get it. I'm going to analyse now. Thanks! (21 seconds later) Ok, I think I've got a new argument – BCLC Aug 03 '18 at 10:41
  • @spiralstotheleft Re (6) updated question. Re (7) Ah ayt thanks! Re (2) and (3) yes however trivially? – BCLC Aug 03 '18 at 11:13
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    You cannot prove that something is not differentiable by proving that it is the sum of two non-differentiable things. $0$ is differentiable, and it is the sum of $f$ and $-f$, which might be anything. –  Aug 03 '18 at 11:17
  • @spiralstotheleft I tried to modify Argument 2 to say the parts are not complex differentiable but that doesn't prove $f$ isn't. Thanks! How about post as answer? I'll upvote and accept even if you just copy the text or screenshot our discussion into a post. / Re (2) and (3) yes however trivially? =) / Re (1) ? – BCLC Aug 03 '18 at 11:33

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$(1)$ Probably not: $u$ and $v$ are complex differentiable iff they are constant. $f$ is obviously differentiable in $\mathbb R^2$ or $\mathbb C$ if its parts are, RESP, differentiable in $\mathbb R^2$ or $\mathbb C$

(2), (3) Yes albeit trivially.

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