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I'm looking at a theorem that states if $\sum a_n$ and $\sum b_n$ are absolutely convergent then the Cauchy product $\sum c_n$ is absolutely convergent. Where $c_n = \sum_{j=0}^{n} a_j b_{n-j}$. I came up with this proof which is either 1) wrong because it doesn't use the fact that both series converge absolutely or 2) uses the fact that both series (particularly series $b_n$) converge absolutely without me noticing it. I have seen other similar posts such as this one but my question is about the following process specifically and looking at the previous posts I still can't tell if the problem is 1) or 2). I write this post in the hopes that someone will point out which one it is. Here is my proof:

Compute:

$$ \left|\sum_{n=0}^{M} |c_n| - \sum_{n=0}^{K} |c_n|\right|$$

Without loss of generality we can assume that $M \geq K$:

$$= \left|\sum_{n=K}^{M} |c_n| \right|=\sum_{n=K}^{M} |c_n|$$

Rewrite $c_n$:

$$=\sum_{n=K}^{M} |a_n B_{M-n}|$$

If $\sum b_n$ converges to $B$ and $B_M$ is the $M$'th partial sum of $b_n$ then:

$$=\sum_{n=K}^{M} |a_n (B_{M-n}-B+B)|$$

By the triangle inequality:

$$\leq \sum_{n=K}^{M} |a_n (B_{M-n}-B)| + \sum_{n=K}^{M} |a_n B|=\sum_{n=K}^{M} |a_n| |B_{M-n}-B| + \sum_{n=K}^{M} |a_n B|$$

Consider the set $\{|B_n - B| : n \in \mathbb{N}\}$ since $B_n$ converges then this set is bounded. Let $B_{MAX} = sup\{|B_n - B| : n \in \mathbb{N}\} $ then:

$$\leq B_{MAX} \sum_{n=K}^{M} |a_n| + |B| \sum_{n=K}^{M} |a_n| = (B_{MAX}+|B|) \sum_{n=K}^{M} |a_n|$$

Take $K$ large enough so $\sum_{n=K}^{M} |a_n| < \epsilon/{(B_{MAX}+|B|)}$ (which must exists since $a_n$ converges absolutely) to conclude:

$$\left |\sum_{n=0}^{M} |c_n| - \sum_{n=0}^{K} |c_n| \right|<\epsilon$$

Thus, $|c_n|$ is Cauchy and thus, $c_n$ converges absolutely.

QED?

cach1
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  • I did not check your proof, but the Cauchy product of an absolute convergent series with a conditionally convergent series may fail to converge absolutely. Examples are given here: https://math.stackexchange.com/q/2272433/42969 – Martin R Feb 25 '23 at 19:07
  • @MartinR thank you for providing this counter example. I know that this can happen and that's why I say that the proof must either be wrong or using the fact of absolute convergence without me noticing it. I have replaced these in the proof and replicated the process and I somehow get to them converging absolutely. – cach1 Feb 25 '23 at 19:30
  • I think you use the wrong $\sum |c_n|$ since when you take the absolute value of the individual $c_n$ and add them, the $b$'s are inside each such, so to combine them in $B_n$ means that they have to go outside the absolute value so they get to be $|b_n|$ – Conrad Feb 25 '23 at 19:30
  • @Conrad thank you for your interest. I'm not entirely sure what you mean, could you please elaborate further? If it is the substitution $c_n = a_n B_{M-n}$ I am rather confident that is correct as I have seen it use multiple times. I could post a proof of it if it where necessary. – cach1 Feb 25 '23 at 19:36
  • It is not correct that $c_n=a_nB_{M-n}$ - see definition of $c_n$; what is correct is that sum of $c_n$ is indeed a sum of the $a_nB_{M-n}$ by grouping terms with same $a$ – Conrad Feb 25 '23 at 19:39
  • Part-way through the question you switch from $b_i$ to $B_i$ -- can you fix this? – JBL Feb 25 '23 at 20:34
  • @Conrad, Thank you! You are correct, it is the sum, not the terms. – cach1 Feb 26 '23 at 02:49
  • @JBL not sure what you mean by $b_i$ but $B_i$ is just the $i$'th partial sum of $b_n$ – cach1 Feb 26 '23 at 02:51
  • I see, thanks -- that doesn't seem to be explained in the question anywhere (?) – JBL Feb 26 '23 at 02:57
  • Hopefully now is clear where the mistake is and how indeed the absolute convergence of $b_n$ is implicitly used since you actually need the sums of $|b_n|$ not $B_n$ for your argument to work – Conrad Feb 26 '23 at 03:50
  • @JBL thanks, I have updated the OP for clarity. – cach1 Mar 04 '23 at 18:29
  • @Conrad it is, thank you. A couple triangle inequalities later and I have the correct proof now. – cach1 Mar 04 '23 at 18:30
  • @ja.ortiz: It's not quite clear to me from your comments what the status of your question is. If it's been answered, you could ideally write up the answer and accept it so that the question doesn't linger unanswered. Alternatively you could delete the question. In any case, in its current form, the question doesn't seem to reflect the fact that you "have the correct proof now". – joriki Mar 04 '23 at 20:17
  • @joriki I do have the answer, the process is basically the same except the substitution of the partial sums is not done with an equal but with a $\leq$ when $b_n$ converges absolutely. I don't see why the question should reflect that I have the correct answer or why I should prove that I do. Further, I do not wish to provide the correct answer as this is part of a problem set for a course and posting it's answers online would undermine the ability to evaluate the comprehension of future students. What I have learned from Conrad was enough for me to realize my mistake and get a correct answer. – cach1 Mar 05 '23 at 02:54

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