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Eliminate $\theta$ from $$\sin3\theta=a\cos\theta$$ $$\cos3\theta=b\sin\theta$$

I came to this point while trying to solve this problem: Eliminating $\theta$ from trigonometric system (Remark: Symbols differ from the original question)

We can find $$b+a=\frac{2\cos2\theta}{\sin2\theta}$$ $$b-a=\frac{2\cos4\theta}{\sin2\theta}$$

Though at the moment I can't imagine how to arrange these to get a proper relation between $a$ and $b$. We can replace $\sin$ and $\cos$ with $\tan$ and then proceed, but it is cumbersome.

I suspect that there should be a clever way to end this, giving a beautiful answer. For reference, like in this question, a specific method gives the desired answer.$\leftarrow\small \text{(not strictly relevant)}$

So, what is the happy ending of this problem?

ACB
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    Hint: we have $\tan3\theta=\frac{a}{b}\cot\theta$ which, defining $t:=\tan\theta$, rearranges to a quadratic in $t^2$. – J.G. Dec 17 '21 at 08:18
  • Another interesting equality is $\frac{a b -1}{2} = \cos 4 \theta$, and with the first of your equalities produces a relation between $a$, $b$. – orangeskid Dec 18 '21 at 01:30

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My first idea after seeing the problem is to say that $$ a^2\cos^2\theta+b^2\sin^2\theta=1 $$ From this we get $$ a^2(1+\cos2\theta)+b^2(1-\cos2\theta)=2 $$ whence $$ \cos2\theta=\frac{2-a^2-b^2}{a^2-b^2} $$ But we also have $$ \frac{\sin^23\theta}{a^2}+\frac{\cos^23\theta}{b^2}=1 $$ whence $$ b^2\sin^23\theta+a^2\cos^23\theta=a^2b^2 $$ and, similarly to the above, $$ \cos6\theta=\frac{2a^2b^2-a^2-b^2}{a^2-b^2} $$ Now use the identity for $\cos3x$ in terms of $\cos x$.

egreg
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I used WolframAlpha to get the following relation between $a$, $b$

$$4 - 3 a^2 - 2 a b + a^3 b - 3 b^2 + 2 a^2 b^2 + a b^3=0$$ which is equivalent to $$(a-b)^2 = \frac{ ((a+b)^2 -4)^2}{(a+b)^2 + 4}$$ or $$v^2 = \frac{ (u^2 -1)^2}{u^2 + 1}$$ where $u=\frac{a+b}{2}$ and $v=\frac{a-b}{2}$.

The contour curve is the union of two graphs $$v = \pm \frac{ u^2 -1}{\sqrt{u^2 + 1}}$$

$\bf{Added:}$ With trigonometry, one checks that for $$a = \frac{\sin 3 \theta}{\cos \theta}\\ b= \frac{\cos 3 \theta}{\sin \theta}$$ we have $$\frac{a+b}{2} = \cot 2 \theta \\ \frac{a b -1}{2} = \cos 4 \theta$$

and from here we get a relation between $a$, $b$

orangeskid
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    I didn't mention in my question that (because it is irrelevant), but if you are interested, in the above problem (associated with the other), $a, b$ are $\frac{c(\sqrt3+1)}{(x+y)}$ and $\frac{c(\sqrt3-1)}{(x-y)}$ where $c$ is constant. Though don't bother about this :) – ACB Dec 17 '21 at 10:56
  • @Flagged: You are very welcome. I am surprised that the relation turns out to have a neat form. Let me examine the other question now. – orangeskid Dec 17 '21 at 11:05
  • Please wait and sorry... there should be a $4$ in the denominator of both fractions. (e.g. $\frac{c(\sqrt3+1)}{4(x+y)}$) And since you are going to check the other question, $c$ is actually $a$ there. – ACB Dec 17 '21 at 11:07
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    @Flagged: About the other question, solving the system gets a solution in terms of $b=\frac{\sin 3 \theta}{\sin\theta}$ and $a=\frac{\sin 3 \theta}{\cos \theta}$ ( a bit different from this problem). With trig, we get $\frac{a^2}{b^2} = \frac{3-b}{1+b} = \tan^2 \theta$. Your problem seems to be inspired, but not directly connected to that problem. Cheers! – orangeskid Dec 18 '21 at 04:01
  • @Stranger: From the WA equation, I did a SymmetricReduce to express it in terms of $a+b$, $a-b$, mostly because the shape of the level curve showed that there were two analytic branches. Btw, the expression for $(ab-1)/2$ ( which I think takes care of the problem and is interesting) I found after looking at the simplifed formula. Good to see you back. Cheers! – orangeskid Dec 26 '21 at 21:46
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    Thanks, BTW, Here's my method ------ We have
    $$\frac{b+a}2=\frac{\cos2\theta}{\sin2\theta}=u$$
    $$\frac{b-a}2=\frac{\cos4\theta}{\sin2\theta}=v$$

    Squaring the second equation gives,
    $$v^2=\frac{\cos^2 4\theta}{\sin^2 2\theta}$$
    $$v^2=\frac{(\cos^2 2\theta-\sin^2 2\theta)^2}{\sin^2 2\theta}$$
    $$v^2=\frac{\sin^42\theta\left(\dfrac{\cos^2 2\theta}{\sin^2 2\theta}-1\right)^2}{\sin^2 2\theta}$$
    $$v^2=\frac{\sin^2 2\theta(u^2-1)^2}{\cos^2 2\theta+\sin^2 2\theta}$$
    $$v^2=\frac{(u^2-1)^2}{\dfrac{\cos^2 2\theta}{\sin^2 2\theta}+1}$$
    $$v^2=\frac{(u^2-1)^2}{u^2+1}$$

     – ACB Dec 27 '21 at 01:31
  • @Stranger: This is interesting! I could not do it by hand even in the ancestral times. – orangeskid Dec 27 '21 at 01:36