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Let $a, b$ be positive integers such that the number $ \dfrac{a + 1}{b} + \dfrac{b + 1}{a}$ is also integer. Then, show that $\dfrac{a + b}{\gcd{(a, b)^{2}}}$ is a Fibonacci number.

I prove that : $ \displaystyle{\forall a, b \in \mathbb{N}} $ such that $ \displaystyle{ k = \frac{a + 1}{b} + \frac{b + 1}{a} \in \mathbb{N} \Rightarrow k = 3 }$ or $ \displaystyle{ k = 4 } $. Also, we have that (I use the method Vieta Jumping) :

$ \displaystyle{ \mathbb{S} = \Big \{ \big( a, b \big) \in \mathbb{N} \times \mathbb{N} : \frac{a + 1}{b} + \frac{b + 1}{a} = k \in \mathbb{N} \Big \} = \Big \{ \big( a, b \big) \in \mathbb{N} \times \mathbb{N} : \frac{a + 1}{b} + \frac{b + 1}{a} = 3 \text{ } or \text{ } \frac{a + 1}{b} + \frac{b + 1}{a} = 4 \Big \} } $

Fibonacci sequence : $\displaystyle{f_{0} = 0, f_{1} = 1}$ and $\displaystyle{f_{n+2} = f_{n+1} + f_{n}, \forall n \in \mathbb{N} \cup \{ 0 \} = \{ 0, 1, 2, 3, . . . \}}$

$ \displaystyle{ k = 3 } $ : If $ \displaystyle{ \big( a, b \big) \in \mathbb{S} } $ with $ \displaystyle{ \frac{a + 1}{b} + \frac{b + 1}{a} = 3 } $, then $ \displaystyle{ \big( 3 \cdot a - 1 - b, a \big) \in \mathbb{S} } $ so we have $ \displaystyle{ \big( 2, 2 \big), \big( 3 = f_{3} + 1, 2 \big), \big( 6 = f_{5} + 1, 3 \big), \big( 14 = f_{7} + 1, 6 \big), \big( 35 = f_{9} + 1, 14 \big), . . . \in \mathbb{S} } $ (I checked some couples and I found that the request is valid) but I can not porve that $ \displaystyle{ \frac{a + b}{\gcd{\big(a, b \big)^{2}}} } $ is a Fibonacci number.

$ \displaystyle{ k = 4 } $ : If $ \displaystyle{ \big( a, b \big) \in \mathbb{S} } $ with $ \displaystyle{ \frac{a + 1}{b} + \frac{b + 1}{a} = 4 } $, then $ \displaystyle{ \big( 4 \cdot a - 1 - b, a \big) \in \mathbb{S} } $ so we have $ \displaystyle{ \big( 1, 1 \big), \big( 2, 1 \big), \big( 6, 2 \big), \big( 21, 6 \big), \big( 77, 21 \big), . . . \in \mathbb{S} } $ (I checked some couples and I found that the request is valid) but also I can not porve that $ \displaystyle{ \frac{a + b}{\gcd{\big(a, b \big)^{2}}} } $ is a Fibonacci number.

I need some help, because I can not solve the problem. So my questions are :

if $ \displaystyle{ \frac{a + 1}{b} + \frac{b + 1}{a} = 3 } $ where $ \displaystyle{ a = f_{2 \cdot n - 1} + 1, b = f_{2 \cdot n + 1} + 1 \in \mathbb{N}, \forall n \geqslant 2, \forall n \in \mathbb{N} } $, how I can show that $ \displaystyle{ \frac{a + b}{\gcd{\big( a, b \big)^{2}}} } $ is a Fibonacci number ?

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if $ \displaystyle{ \frac{a + 1}{b} + \frac{b + 1}{a} = 4} $ where $ \displaystyle{ a, b \in \mathbb{N} } $, how I can show that $ \displaystyle{ \frac{a + b}{\gcd{\big( a, b \big)^{2}}} } $ is a Fibonacci number ?

Oscar Lanzi
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  • I am unable to figure out, how did you get the expression: $(3\cdot a-1-b, a)\in\mathbb{S}$ – Kumar Dec 24 '20 at 12:00
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    Can you prove that we must have $k=3$ or $k=4$? Related. The formula in my answer to that question should settle your question in the case $k=3$. The recurrence in the case $k=4$ is in a comment unde Bill Dubuque's answer. – Jyrki Lahtonen Dec 24 '20 at 12:08
  • you can follow this approach https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/c6h542332p3128041 – zwim Dec 24 '20 at 12:10
  • What do you mean by a Fibonacci number? – Asem Abdelraouf Dec 24 '20 at 12:44
  • I'd hope the solution isn't simply to classify all solutions $(a, b)$ and brute-force the quotient. The general symmetry $(a, b) \mapsto (b, bN-a-1)$ where $N := (a+1)/b + (b+1)/a$ holds. In Jyrki's post, this is implemented as in $(1+f_k, 1+f_{k+2}) \mapsto (1+f_{k+2}, 1+f_{k+4})$. So, do the iterates of the quotient under this symmetry obey a Fibonacci-style recurrence relation? – Joshua P. Swanson Dec 24 '20 at 14:26
  • Can you please tell us the source of the question. Maybe it will help to see what lessons are mentioned before the question. – Aven Desta Dec 25 '20 at 06:44

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First of all we assume that $gcd(a,b)=d $ so we may assume that there exist coprime integers $x,y$ such that $a=dx , b=dy$ then from the hypothesis of the problem: $ab|a^2+b^2+a+b \rightarrow ab|(a+b)(a+b+1) \rightarrow dxy|(x+y)(dx+dy+1)$ because $d$ is coprime to $dx+dy+1$ , $d|x+y$ (first result) and because $x,y$ are coprime it is easy to conclude that $xy$ is coprime to $x+y$ and therefore $xy|dx+dy+1$ (second result) now instead of the first result, assume that there is a positive integer $t$ such that $y=td-x$ then the second result will be $x(td-x)|td^2+1 $. Now assume a positive integer $k$ such that $td^2+1=ktdx-kx^2$ which is the equation $kx^2-ktdx+(td^2+1)=0$ and by multiplying both sides by $4k$, $4k^2x^2-4k^2tdx+(4ktd^2+4k)=0$ and this is actually $(2kx-ktd)^2=(k^2t^2d^2-4k-4ktd^2) $. From this result, the existance of such $x$ is clearly equivalent to these two: i) $k^2t^2d^2-4k-4ktd^2$(we'll call this $r$) is a perfect square ii) $2k|\sqrt{r}+ktd$. Now just let's say that we choose $k$ to be odd. Then this condition will be changed to the following two conditions:

  1. $2|\sqrt{r}+ktd$ which is clear because $\sqrt{r}$ has the same parity with $r$ and $r$ has the same parity with $k^2t^2d^2$ so actually $\sqrt{r}$ has the same parity with $k^2t^2d^2$ and thus, $\sqrt{r}+ktd$ is even because $ktd+k^2t^2d^2$ is even, so the first condition is satisfied.
  2. $k|\sqrt{r}+ktd$ iff $k|\sqrt{r}$ iff $k^2|r$ iff $k^2|4k+4ktd^2$ iff $k|4+4td^2$ but because we've chosen $k$ to be odd, that's equivalent to $k|td^2+1$ So, summing up; if we choose $s$ to be a number that satisfies $td^2+1=ks$, it's enough to prove that $r=4k^2s-k^2t^2d^2$ is a perfect square, which is again equivalent to $4s-t^2d^2$ being a perfect square. So, for avoiding any confusion here I restate the new problem: We have positive integers that satisfy $td^2+1=ks$ and $4s-t^2d^2$ is a perfect square and want to prove that $t$ is a fibbonachi number. Now $k$ doesn't have a role anymore so instead of $td^2+1=ks$, we say that $s|td^2+1$. Now again assume $u$ to be a number that $4s-t^2d^2=u^2$. Mixing the two hypotheses, we'll have $u^2+t^2d^2=4s|4td^2+4$.Now because RHS shall be bigger than or equal to the LHS, $4td^2+4\leqslant u^2+t^2d^2$. Now considering $t$ as our variable, $t^2d^2-4td^2+(u^2-4)$ is less than or equal to zero. On the other hand that is actually $4+4d^2-u^2\leqslant(t-2)^2d^2$. Now two important notes here:
  3. $d\not=1$ because then the problem's original statement leads to a contradiction so I assume it meant $d\not=1$.
  4. $u\leqslant2$: If $u=0$ , then back to the $u^2+t^2d^2|4td^2+4$, $t|t^2d^2|4td^2+4$ and thus $t|4$ but if $t=4$ then $16d^2|16d^2+4$ a contradiction. Otherwise $t=1or2$ which are both fibbonachi numbers. If $u=1$, back to the definition of $u$, $4s=t^2d^2+1$ which is a contradiction $mod4$. So $u\leqslant2$. Now back to our inequality, $4+4d^2-u^2\leqslant(t-2)^2d^2$. This is equivalent to $sqrt{\frac{4+4d^2-u^2}{d^2}}+2\leqslant t$ Now by the second note we just mentioned, the LHS is maximized when u=2 , and so clearly $2\leqslant t$ and so $t$ is a fibbonachi number. In the same way you can consider that $k$ is even and get to the numbers {3,5} and so all of the possible values of $t$ are {1,2,3,5} which are all fibbonachi numbers.
Aryan
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  • would it be possible to uncompact a bit this answer... – zwim Dec 24 '20 at 12:22
  • Is that clear now? (By the way Im new to LaTeX how do you go to next row?) – Aryan Dec 24 '20 at 12:33
  • Well its not equal The LHS of the division was $ab$ so I added $2ab$ to $a^2+b^2+a+b$ to factorize it like that. Clearly the LHS still divides the new RHS – Aryan Dec 24 '20 at 12:41
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    For quick latex refer here – Kumar Dec 24 '20 at 12:45
  • And I guess I need to remark that we're just "in a friendly manner" checking if my statements have a problem. This isn't decieving or something – Aryan Dec 24 '20 at 12:46
  • TBH I am unable to figure out the following things: 1. Why do you need to factorize for your entire solution to work? 2. What is your first result? What is your second result? – Kumar Dec 24 '20 at 12:56
  • Well that's a technique I wanted to have the relation as a "product" way to use the divisions. I will mark my first and second result – Aryan Dec 24 '20 at 13:02
  • See the OP claims that t/d is a Fibonacci number. Also, I have a tough time getting around your solution. The other confusion is that how do you claim that t is not a Fibonacci number from your previous results. – Kumar Dec 24 '20 at 13:22
  • I agree with everything you said except the key punchline, "which is clearly incorrect". This does not seem at all clear. (@Kumar: in this notation, OP claims $t$ is a Fibonacci number, not $t/d$. Remember to translate from $x, y$ to $a, b$.) – Joshua P. Swanson Dec 24 '20 at 13:29
  • I assumed the same. I have assumed $x+y=td$ which makes $\frac{a+b}{d^2}$ equal to $t$. Also you can make a hundred counterexamples at one moment from the last statement. – Aryan Dec 24 '20 at 13:31
  • Like even if you don't want to put d=1 which makes the problem hilariously incorrect, you can put t=4 , d=2 , x=7 How is it not clear that there are a ton of counterexamples to this – Aryan Dec 24 '20 at 13:42
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    @Aryan Your proposed counterexample results in $a=14, b=2$, in which case $(a+1)/b + (b+1)/a = 54/7$ is not an integer. I mean, sure there are counterexamples to the divisibility statement you've derived, but the question is whether those also satisfy the conditions you started with. – Joshua P. Swanson Dec 24 '20 at 13:53
  • Hi again. Sorry just got what's wrong with it and fixed the solution. I'm going to post it now – Aryan Dec 25 '20 at 04:36
  • This seems plausible now. I don't have time to go through it carefully at the moment--hopefully others will. – Joshua P. Swanson Dec 25 '20 at 07:45