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Let $a>b>c>d$ be positive integers and suppose that $${a^2+ac-c^2=b^2+bd-d^2}$$

Prove that $ab+cd$ is not prime? I don't know if this problem is true.

I found that this same problem has also been posted on AOPS.

But I can't prove this problem. Can anyone help me?

math110
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    Why complex-numbers ? – Nikita Evseev Mar 27 '13 at 06:04
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    Your version does not match the problem on AOPS which you refer to. – coffeemath Mar 27 '13 at 06:31
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    That's supposed to be $ac+bd=(b+d+a-c)(b+d-a+c)\implies {a^2-ac+c^2=b^2+bd+d^2}$ – Inceptio Mar 27 '13 at 06:36
  • @nikita2: Complex numbers can be used. – Inceptio Mar 27 '13 at 06:43
  • @Math110: I have edited the question. Have a look if I have made some error in that. And make sure of answering your own question if you're done with that. Community appreciates that.:) – Inceptio Mar 27 '13 at 13:59
  • @Inceptio: Surely if you believe you can correct OP's question based on comparison with the AOPS link, then the statement there is clearer (less obfuscated). On the other hand if the OP asked what they meant to ask, replacing it with a different question is not helpful. Perhaps we should wait for the OP to clarify. – hardmath Mar 27 '13 at 13:59
  • @hardmath: I have asked OP to clarify. And he has mentioned clearly with the link that he isn't able to solve that particular question, so there MIGHT be a typo. But still, its up to OP to accept the edit. – Inceptio Mar 27 '13 at 14:03
  • No, the $IMO42$ I can solve, But my problem,I don't have prove it. – math110 Mar 27 '13 at 15:47
  • @math110 by the way, I've noticed that you haven't accepted any an answer to any of your question. do accept those answers which you think are correct - I'm sure a number of them are! – Vincent Tjeng Mar 29 '13 at 23:54

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Rewrite as:

$$a^2-b^2+ac-bc=bd-bc+c^2-d^2$$ $$(a-b)(a+b+c)=(c-d)(c+d-b)$$

Since $a>b>c>d$, each of $a-b, a+b+c, c-d, c+d-b$ is positive. By factoring lemma (excerpted below) there exists $w, x, y, z \in \mathbb{Z}^+$ s.t.

$$a-b=wx, a+b+c=yz, c-d=wy, c+d-b=xz$$

Solving for $a, b, c, d$, we get:

\begin{align} 5a=3wx+2yz-wy-xz \\ 5b=-2wx+2yz-wy-xz \\ 5c=-wx+yz+2wy+2xz \\ 5d=-wx+yz-3wy+2xz \end{align}

Thus:

\begin{align} & 25(ab+cd) \\ & =(3wx+2yz-wy-xz)(-2wx+2yz-wy-xz) \\ & +(-wx+yz+2wy+2xz)(-wx+yz-3wy+2xz) \\ & =5(z^2-wz-w^2)(x^2+y^2) \end{align}

$$5(ab+cd)=(z^2-wz-w^2)(x^2+y^2)$$

Since $b>c$,

$$-2wx+2yz-wy-xz=5b>5c=-wx+yz+2wy+2xz$$ $$yz>wx+3wy+3xz$$

In particular, $yz>wx+3wy+3xz>3xz$ implies $y>3x$ and $yz>wx+3wy+3xz>3wy$ implies $z>3w$.

Thus $$x^2+y^2>x^2+9x^2>5$$ $$z^2-wz-w^2=(z-\frac{w}{2})^2-\frac{5w^2}{4}>(3w-\frac{w}{2})^2-\frac{5w^2}{4}=5w^2 \geq 5$$

If $ab+cd$ is a prime, then $ab+cd \geq 4(3)+2(1)>5$, then $5(ab+cd)=(z^2-wz-w^2)(x^2+y^2)$ implies that $ab+cd$ divides exactly 1 of $z^2-wz-w^2$ and $x^2+y^2$. However, the term not divisible by $ab+cd$ must necessarily divide $5$, and thus be $\leq 5$. Since both $z^2-wz-w^2>5$ and $x^2+y^2>5$, we obtain a contradiction.

Therefore $ab+cd$ is not prime.


Below is the linked "factoring lemma".

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Ivan Loh
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The key observation is:

$$ (ac-bd) ( a^2 + ac - c^2) = (ab+cd) ( bc - ad). $$

This can be shown by expanding the LHS as $(ac)(b^2+bd-d^2) - (bd) (a^2 + ac - c^2)$, noticing that $abcd$ cancels out, and factoring.

Proof by contradiction. Suppose $ab+cd$ is prime.

  • Because $ac-bd > 0, a^2+ac-c^2 > 0, ab+cd > 0,$ hence we can conclude that $bc-ad > 0$.
  • Since $0 < ac - bd < ab + cd$, so $\gcd(ac-bd, ab+cd) = 1$, hence $ ac-bd \mid bc-ad$.
  • This implies that $ ac-bd \leq bc-ad$.
  • However, $(a-b)(c+d) > 0 \Leftrightarrow ac - bd > bc - ad $.

We have a contradiction, so $ ab+cd$ is not prime.


Notes

I came up with the key observation because I was working on similar problems like

  1. IMO 2001/6,
  2. If $a^2+ab+b^2 = c^2 + cd+d^2$, then $a+b+c+d$ is not prime, and
  3. If $ a>b>c >d > 0 $ such that $a^2-ab+b^2 = c^2 - cd + d^2 $ then $ ab+cd $ is not prime.

In all of them, there's an approach that similarly finds a nice algebraic expression involving the variables, then argues about primality.

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