Suppose $\alpha,\beta,\gamma$ are the roots of equation $x^3-4x+2=0,$ how to find $[(\alpha-\beta)(\beta-\gamma)(\gamma-\alpha)]^2?$ Indeed, given an expression , what is the trick to change the given expression into an expression of Vieta's formula?
2 Answers
You just have to expand $(\alpha-\beta)(\beta-\gamma)(\gamma-\alpha)$ to get the expression in terms of sum of products of roots and you can use Vieta's formula. Square it to get the quantity that you want.
Also, for an equation $$y^3+py+q=0\tag{1}$$
It is known that
$$[(\alpha-\beta)(\beta-\gamma)(\gamma-\alpha)]^2=-27q^2-4p^3$$
This is known as the discriminant function to $(1)$. Try to verify it.
Edit:
\begin{align} &[(\alpha \beta^2+\beta \gamma^2+\gamma \alpha^2)-(\alpha^2 \beta + \beta^2 \gamma + \gamma^2 \alpha)]^2\\ &=[(\alpha \beta^2+\beta \gamma^2+\gamma \alpha^2)+(\alpha^2 \beta + \beta^2 \gamma + \gamma^2 \alpha)]^2 - 4(\alpha \beta^2+\beta \gamma^2+\gamma \alpha^2)(\alpha^2 \beta + \beta^2 \gamma + \gamma^2 \alpha) \end{align}
Focusing on the first term inside the square: \begin{align} &(\alpha \beta^2+\beta \gamma^2+\gamma \alpha^2)+(\alpha^2 \beta + \beta^2 \gamma + \gamma^2 \alpha)\\ &=\alpha\beta(\alpha+\beta)+\beta\gamma(\beta+\gamma)+\alpha\gamma(\alpha+\gamma)\\&= \alpha\beta(\alpha+\beta+\gamma)+\beta\gamma(\beta+\gamma+\alpha)+\alpha\gamma(\alpha+\gamma+\beta)-3\alpha\beta\gamma\\ &=(\alpha+\beta+\gamma)(\alpha\beta+\beta\gamma+\alpha\gamma)-3\alpha\beta\gamma \end{align}
Now, let's move on to the second term ignoring the $4$,
\begin{align} &(\alpha\beta^2+\beta\gamma^2+\gamma\alpha^2)(\alpha^2\beta+\beta^2\gamma+\gamma^2\alpha) \\&=\alpha^3\beta^3+\alpha\beta^4\gamma+\alpha^2\beta^2\gamma^2\\&+\alpha^2\beta^2\gamma^2+\beta^3\alpha^3+\alpha\beta\gamma^4\\ &+\alpha^4\beta\gamma + \alpha^2\beta^2\gamma^2+\alpha^3\beta^3 \\ &= \alpha^3\beta^3+\beta^3\gamma^3+\gamma^3\alpha^3+3(\alpha\beta\gamma)^2+\alpha\beta\gamma(\alpha^3+\beta^3+\gamma^3) \end{align}
To finish it up, try to explore the formula $(a+b+c)^3.$

- 149,520
- 20
- 88
- 149
-
Much thankssss, I dont know that discriminant function. Orzzz – Real_Galois May 05 '18 at 07:35
-
1But after expanding that , I get αβ²+βγ²+γα²-α²β-β²γ-γ²α, how can I change it into that three expressions in Vieta’s formula? – Real_Galois May 05 '18 at 07:48
-
hi, apologize that i underestimate the problem earlier. I have added more details. – Siong Thye Goh May 05 '18 at 08:29
-
also, another remark. here is an alternative approach, the first $4$ pages of the attached document using Hudde's substitution (also known as Vieta's substitution). For your entertainment. – Siong Thye Goh May 05 '18 at 08:53
-
Oh I just focus on expanding (α+β+γ)³ and (α+β+γ)(αβ+βγ+γα) but forget grouping terms. Thinks so much haha~ – Real_Galois May 05 '18 at 09:29
Hint: Use that $$\alpha+\beta+\gamma=0$$ $$\alpha\beta+\alpha\gamma+\beta\gamma=-4$$ $$\alpha\beta\gamma=-2$$

- 95,283
-
Thanks~~ but my problem is that i dont know how to transform the expression into that three terms – Real_Galois May 05 '18 at 09:32