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Ok so I am looking at Rings. I saw somewhere that the $2 \times 2$ symmetric matrices with entries in $\mathbb{R}$ is a ring. But if we look at matrix multiplication I am not convinced:

If $ A = \left( \begin{array}{cc} a & b \\ b & c\\ \end{array} \right) $

and $ B = \left( \begin{array}{cc} x & y \\ y & z\\ \end{array} \right) $

then $AB = \left( \begin{array}{cc} ax+by & ay+bz \\ bx+cy & by+cz\\ \end{array} \right) $

which is not symmetric?

What am I missing? Does $a=c$ and $x=z$? If so, why? The matrices aboves are still symmetric without those being equal.

Thank you

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As you observed correctly the symmetric $2 \times 2$ matrices are not a ring (with the usual operations) since the set is not closed under multiplications; it is at least an additive subgroup though.

Examples where already given, but let me add one.

$$\begin{pmatrix} a & b \\ b & d \end{pmatrix} \begin{pmatrix} 0 & 0 \\ 0 & 1 \end{pmatrix} = \begin{pmatrix} 0 & b \\ 0 & d \end{pmatrix} $$ which is not symmetric (unless $b=0$).

It is however true that the matrices of the form $$\begin{pmatrix} a & b \\ b & a \end{pmatrix} $$ form a ring and possibly this was what was meant in your source.

Indeed, the matrices form clearly an additive subgroup, and writing $I$ for the identity matrix and $J$ for the matrix $$\begin{pmatrix} 0 & 1 \\ 1 & 0 \end{pmatrix} $$ each such matrix can be written (uniquely) as $xI+ yJ$ with real $x,y$. Since we have $I^2 = I$, $IJ=JI= J$ and $J^2 = I$, and the distributive law, it follows that the matrix is again of the claimed form.

Furthermore, we get from this consideration that this ring is isomorphic to $\mathbb{R}[X]/(X^2 -1)$. Since $X^2 - 1$ is not irreducible over $\mathbb{R}$ this is not a field, and we get that a further isomorphism to $\mathbb{R}[X]/(X -1) \times \mathbb{R}[X]/(X +1) \cong \mathbb{R} \times \mathbb{R}$.

In this context it might also be interesting to recall that one way to construct the complex numbers is as matrices of the form $$\begin{pmatrix} a & -b \\ b & a \end{pmatrix} $$ There the polynomial we get is $X^2 + 1$, which is irreducible over $\mathbb{R}$.

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It is very easy to construct a counterexample. Take any 2x2 symmetric matrices and look at their product. Is it symmetric? Try.

I tried with

$$\begin{pmatrix} 1 & 2 \\ 2 & 0 \end{pmatrix}$$ and $$\begin{pmatrix} 1 & 1 \\ 1 & 1 \end{pmatrix}$$ (just putting random numbers on the entries)

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  • Yes, I have come up with examples that are not symmetric once multiplied. My question is: So the symmetric 2x2 matrices are not a ring? I saw it stated somewhere that it was so I am confused. Thanks – moony Jan 25 '15 at 20:49
  • No: it is not a ring, since it is not closed under multiplication. – Crostul Jan 26 '15 at 10:37
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It is a ring if both addition and multiplication are performed entrywise. If we use the usual matrix multiplication, however, the set does not form a ring, as you correctly observed.

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