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Recently I was approved for my first credit card, and I was trying to find out the exact repercussions that using it would have on me, and my credit.

For now I've only been using the credit card for things I would buy normally and I pay them off almost immediately, usually once they post to my online account. However, I'm soon to be moving into an apartment and I'm contemplating using the card to furnish the apartment, paying it off over time, which I know is the point of the card.

What I'm wondering is, what kind of effects will usage like this have on my credit, and is it worth doing?

EDIT: There were more answers to this than I was ever expecting. Thanks for all of the responses. I got a lot of useful information from everyone. I ended up being inside of a 15 month grace period with no interest on purchases, so I did end up using the card more than I probably would have without that. That said, I'll be paying it all off today, and in the future this information is going to keep me from getting myself into a lot of trouble.

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    Just a heads up from someone who recently went through everything you're describing: if you're buying a lot of new furniture, stores will often offer financing with no interest payments for the first few months up to a couple of years. Qualifying can also depend on your credit history. – bpeav Aug 16 '16 at 19:18
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    @ThePeavstenator Please consider writing up the drawbacks of your proposal. Include such things as a maxed out store credit line, back-dated interest if not paid off during the grace period, a few point deduction on credit history once the store closes the credit line after it's been paid in full, etc... – MonkeyZeus Aug 16 '16 at 19:37
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    @MonkeyZeus, You're right I should have mentioned your credit getting pinged for having an account close after paying off the purchase. I was mainly offering the idea up as a better way to pay installments when compared to carrying a balance on a credit card. – bpeav Aug 16 '16 at 19:46
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    "...paying it off over time, which I know is the point of the card." That's not quite right. That is the point of the card for the credit card company, not for you. The only reason they want you to run up a long term credit balance is to make money from you! – alephzero Aug 16 '16 at 20:31
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    I can't stress credit card rule one enough. NEVER EVER spend more then you actually already have in money. In an emergency you can chose to break that rule, but for day to day, or normal things, you should NEVER spend more money then you actually have. – coteyr Aug 17 '16 at 14:25
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    @coteyr Do you have a mortgage? – JimmyJames Aug 17 '16 at 15:24
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    @JimmyJames, No, but the same applies to mortgages. You don't get a mortgage for more then you have. The difference in that case is that you "have" an asset in the house. You don't have an asset in that couch from Rooms to Go. You should never mortgage a house for more then its value. – coteyr Aug 17 '16 at 15:28
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    @coteyr, I think the difference is between secured debt and unsecured debt. a long term secured debt on an asset that will (probably) maintain or rise in the long term. – Marcus D Aug 17 '16 at 15:33
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    @coteyr I just think that there's a lot of people on this site that are hysterically anti-debt. Debt is a tool and like many tools, it can be dangerous if used improperly but that doesn't make it inherently bad. I had a situation where I could pay for a sport program for my kid monthly or pay for a year up front and get a significant discount that exceeds my annual interest on my CC. I didn't have the cash at the time so I paid with the CC and then paid it off over a few months. I saved money by doing this. – JimmyJames Aug 17 '16 at 15:48
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    @MarcusD agree when we talk about mortgages. The OP is talking about credit cards. – coteyr Aug 17 '16 at 15:53
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    @JimmyJames I would consider that risky. I would have not paid for the sport program. That said different strokes for different folks. I would have budgeted in such a way that I had 6 to 12 months of income as a liquid asset (savings account) and then used some of that to pay for the sport program, refilling that buffer. In a sense borrowing from my self. If you I didn't have that buffer, then I would feel like I had no business spending the money in the first place, and I should, instead focus on the buffer. People have different strategies though, and what ever works. – coteyr Aug 17 '16 at 16:04
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    @JimmyJames Debt is ok if you can use the money to generate more income than debt interest. That's exactly what you've done. A good investment. But OP wants to spend that money on pleasures, and going into debt for such reasons is very good reason to go full hysterical. – Agent_L Aug 17 '16 at 16:23
  • Many furniture stores offer free financing so be sure to look into this before putting your couch on your normal credit card. If that fails, there are many 12-18 month no interest promos for new credit cards. – Dean MacGregor Aug 17 '16 at 16:32
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    @MonkeyZeus Credit card also back dates interest if not paid off during grace period, so it's not a valid argument when compared with credit card. – Agent_L Aug 17 '16 at 16:33
  • fair point @coteyr – Marcus D Aug 17 '16 at 16:37
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    "paying it off over time, which I know is the point of the card". This is a misconception. The point of a credit account, for credit card company, is a vehicle to bring in interest income. When you carry a balance, you pay them to use their money. The point of a credit card, from the consumer's point of view, is to build credit, and as a last resort, after emergency fund is depleted, as a source of emergency funds. Don't do it. Save for furniture. Use hand me downs, buy from thrift stores, get crafty. Replace eyesores one at a time. Pay cash, invest your money. Build wealth. – Xalorous Aug 17 '16 at 23:23
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    The less extreme version of what @coteyr says is "Never spend more than you will have before the interest free period runs out". Consider the person (and this is a real example) who is paid every 4 weeks (ie 28 days) and who has 31 days interest free. It is safe (assuming their job is reliable) to spend up to the amount they will be paid. It is likely a good idea to be saving up so that one day they have a buffer -- so that last month's pay covers next month's needs; but in the real world that might take several years of saving. (More generally they'ld like a lot more buffer) – Frames Catherine White Aug 18 '16 at 10:20
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    @oxinabox I agree that is more common. But the problem with that is "What if something happens" in that time frame. To me every time you do that your gambling that you don't loose your job, or get in an accident, or have to pay extra taxes, etc. If you don't have the money to pay for things don't buy them. Just wait 60 days or 6 months or whatever and buy it with cash. – coteyr Aug 18 '16 at 20:26
  • @coteyr I'm not talking about luxuries, but necessities. Sure it is a gamble, that nothing is gonna happen, but better to take that gamble -- where the cosqt of losing is paying interest til you can get it down, than not take it, and fail to make 4 lease payments and be kickout of your home. – Frames Catherine White Aug 18 '16 at 23:47
  • If you get a loan from a bank you'll get better interest for furnishing the flat. – SMeznaric Aug 23 '16 at 09:48
  • It was probably worth mentioning, although it bit late, and I did add another question for it, that I have a 15 month grace period from just recently opening the account for the card. Grace period, of course referring to no interest. – Ranma344 Sep 21 '16 at 18:21
  • Get a store card
    • Considering you are talking about apartment furnishings, I would recommend you look into store cards instead of using your regular credit card. For example, my partner and I applied for an Amazon card to pay for our furnishings because it has 0% APR for 6-12 months (depending on the order total). Even though it can only be used to buy things from Amazon.com, it is hardly a concern since we aren't planning on buying another sofa any time soon. That way you can pay off more expensive one-off items without interest (or at least far less than you would pay on your regular credit
    – rm -rf slash Aug 17 '16 at 19:44
  • The Amazon card I had was just an affinity Visa card. Using it on Amazon got you free shipping and some Amazon-specific rebate points, but it could be used anywhere that took Visa. – keshlam Aug 18 '16 at 00:27

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There are a couple of things to consider.

First, in order to avoid interest charges you generally just need to pay the statement balance before the statement due date. This is your grace period. You don't need to monitor your activity every day and send immediate payments. If you're being really tight with money, you can actually make a little profit by letting your cash sit in an interest bearing account before you pay your credit card before the due date.

Second, credit card interest rates are pretty terrible, and prescribed minimum payments are comically low. If you buy furniture using your credit card you will pay some interest, be sure to pay way more than the minimum payment. You should avoid carrying a balance on a credit card. At 20% interest the approximate monthly interest charge on $1,000 is $16.67.

Third, if you carry a balance on your credit card you lose the interest grace period (the first point above) on new charges. If you buy your couch, and carry the balance, when you buy a soda at 7-11, the soda begins to accrue interest immediately. If you decide to carry a balance on a credit card, stop using that card for new charges. It generally takes two consecutive billing period full balance payments to restore the grace period.

Fourth, to answer your question, using a credit card to carry a balance has no impact on your score. Make your payments on time, don't exceed your limits, keep your utilization reasonable. The credit agencies have no idea if you're carrying a balance or how much interest you're paying.

To Appease the people who think point four needs more words:

Your credit report contains your limit, your reported balance (generally your statement balance), and approximate minimum payment. There is no indication related to whether or not the balance contains a carried balance and/or accrued interest. The mere fact of carrying a balance will not impact your credit score because the credit reporting bureaus don't know you're carrying a balance. Paying interest doesn't help or hurt your score. Obviously if your carried balance and interest charges push your utilization up that will impact your score because of the increased utilization. Make your payments on time, don't exceed your limits, keep your utilization reasonable and your score will be fine.

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    Note that most (all that I've ever had, actually) credit card companies can be set up to automatically direct-debit 100% of the balance from your bank account on the due date. I highly encourage you to do this. (And, of course, to make sure that you never spend more than you have the balance for.) That way, you never have to worry about sending the bill in or missing a payment, and it puts the temptation of exceeding your resources "just this month!" one step further away. For my current card, I can configure this online easily; for others, I had to call or even send in a paper form. – mattdm Aug 16 '16 at 20:23
  • And regarding the comment from @mattdm - when you set it up to automatically make a payment, be aware that with some companies it takes a billing cycle before it's set up. So the first payment may not go through when you expect. Make sure you know for sure. – Joel Aug 17 '16 at 03:26
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    Carrying a balance does impact your credit score due to an increase in utilization. As do the types of accounts as a store card will typically lower your score. The rest of the answer is solid – Eric Aug 17 '16 at 04:23
  • @Eric, no it doesn't. There is nothing inherent to carrying a balance that impacts your credit score because the reporting bureaus have no idea whether or not you're carrying a balance. It's completely possible for a balance inside the optimum utilization ratio to be carried and incur interest. What you're saying is a high utilization ratio can impact your score. It's also possible to have a high utilization ratio without carrying a balance. – quid Aug 17 '16 at 05:12
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    @quid, the part about them not know your balance isn't correct. I use ClearScore to track my score and that lists my balance at the time of the last report. – Ash Burlaczenko Aug 17 '16 at 08:03
  • It's worth noting that even if you're one day late with your payment, you don't just pay one day worth of interest, you actually have to pay back all of your "grace interest". To avoid this happening, it's worthwhile arranging with your bank to have the full balance of the card paid automatically each month. – Dawood ibn Kareem Aug 17 '16 at 08:07
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    no impact on your score? I thought that in US, UK, and Canada, to build a credit score at all (coming from zero as an immigrant), the recommended strategy is to get a credit card, use it, and pay off the balance every month. Are you saying this strategy does not work? – gerrit Aug 17 '16 at 09:20
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    @quid all they know is that your balance is x and your limit is y. They do not score "carrying" but carrying a balance does affect x and y. How much, over how many cards, etc all can impact your score even temporarily. I should have said "can" affect your score but to say it does not is just not correct on its face. – Eric Aug 17 '16 at 11:52
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    @gerrit In the US, the way the credit reporting system works, use your card every month, pay in full every month, keep utilization under 30%, and your score will be boosted. The key is that you pay AFTER the credit report is issued and BEFORE the due date. Interest is calculated based on balance after due date passes. – Xalorous Aug 17 '16 at 23:18
  • Needs one thing to be stated explicitly, probably in bold. The net result of the four items you mention is that, if you want to build credit, you should use the card monthly, and pay on time, in full, every month. Otherwise, consider keeping only one card for emergencies and paying cash as you go. – Xalorous Aug 17 '16 at 23:26
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    @quid "At 20% interest the approximate monthly interest charge on $1,000 is $16.67." My entire life, I've always paid the entire balance at the end of the month, but until this very moment, I always assumed the monthly interest rate was the percentage posted. As in, if I missed my payment of $1000, I'd be charged $200. I always wondered how people could keep a balance on their card without going bankrupt almost immediately. Thank god I never had an opportunity to find out for myself, but I guess my fear of missing one payment accidentally is sort of irrational now. – dberm22 Aug 18 '16 at 11:42
  • @Xalorous I suppose it depends on what you mean by "build credit". – iheanyi Aug 18 '16 at 23:32
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    About the grace period, every card I've ever had the grace period is for any charges posted during that month. The grace period doesn't magically disappear if you carry a balance.You pay interest on the stuff that wasn't paid off, not the new charges on the account. – seroki Aug 19 '16 at 18:26
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    @seroki The only way I have ever seen interest calculated is that once interest charges are being calculated (IE once you've carried a balance) interest is calculated on the full average daily balance including any current period charges. I've never seen the balances split between current and carried; I've never even heard of it. – quid Aug 19 '16 at 18:52
  • you could [edit] to add that you can and probably should just setup autopay for your credit cards, that avoids most issues with (1). – enderland Aug 20 '16 at 00:26
  • @dberm22 I used to think that too, but only payday loan companies charge that kind of interest. – Joe Z. Aug 20 '16 at 01:17
  • @dberm22 You appear to have confused Bank of America's credit cards with Vinnie the Hammer's loan sharking business. A common misconception. – Dan Is Fiddling By Firelight Aug 20 '16 at 02:23
  • I know comments aren't for discussion - but is #3 accurate? I've never seen that before, but I've also never carried a balance. – Raystafarian Aug 21 '16 at 12:04
  • @Raystafarian, it's not so much that you literally "lose the grade period" but that's the net effect of using the average daily balance to calculate interest charges. Something new is charged and it's included in your average daily balance for interest calculation purposes. For this reason, once you have a balance you should stop spending on that card. Almost all credit cards calculate interest charges on the average daily balance. – quid Aug 22 '16 at 16:48
  • @quid So, that is to say that you are immediately charged interest on items in this case? – Ranma344 Sep 29 '16 at 19:47
  • @RCarpenter yes, when the average daily balance method is used for interest calculation (which is by far the most common method) once you carry a balance through a billing period anything contributing to the balance, new charges and carried, is included for interest calculation purposes. This is why you should stop spending on a card once you've carried a balance. Also note, carrying a balance means you paid only part of your current balance due in a billing period, "carrying" the remainder to the next billing period. – quid Sep 29 '16 at 19:53
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Using the card but paying it off entirely at each billing cycle is the only "Good" way to use a credit card. If you feel like you will be tempted to buy more than you can pay back don't use credit.

As far as furnishing the apartment, the best thing to do would be to save and pay cash, but if you want to use credit the credit available at stores would be a far better deal than carrying it on a card.

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    In the US the "credit at stores" is usually much much worse then rates you can get though your bank (for example). Usually stores provide "revolving" credit cards as their "credit". Try a secured card instead if you can. These are usually much much lower interest rates. – coteyr Aug 17 '16 at 14:23
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    @coteyr, the "credit at stores" is only attractive if you get a 0% interest deal, but you have to pay it off in the 0% period, or, you're right, the interest rate is terrible. – JPhi1618 Aug 17 '16 at 18:41
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    Store credit accounts typically charge even higher rates than major credit cards. – Xalorous Aug 17 '16 at 23:27
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    i disagree the best thing to do would be to save and pay cash. you should save the amount the furniture costs in cash, then use a credit card to pay for the furniture, then pay off the credit card. that way you get rewards points on your card, which (imo) is the only reason to use credit cards (and it's a good one). buying ANYTHING with cash is simply a waste of free rewards points. i strive to use credit cards for every single purchase i make. – user428517 Aug 19 '16 at 19:13
  • @sgroves I think your way is solid IF you are committed to staying on top of all your bills in a really timely manner. It only takes one slip up to wipe out the benefit from a bunch of purchases in your manner. – Pablitorun Oct 03 '16 at 15:10
  • @Pablitorun Well, sure. That's why you need to have a little discipline and pay your cards off regularly. Hasn't been a problem for me over the past 10 years. – user428517 Oct 03 '16 at 17:41
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Credit cards have three important advantages. None of them are for day-to-day borrowing of money.

  1. Safety - Credit cards have better fraud protection than checks or cash, and better than most debit/check cards. If you buy something with a credit card, you also get the issuer's (think Visa) assurances that your will get the product you paid for, or your money back. At almost any time, if a product you buy is not what you expect, you can work with the issuer, even if the store says "screw you".

  2. Security - Credit cards are almost universally accepted as a "security" against damages to the vendor. Hotels, car rentals, boat rentals etc. will accept a credit card as a means of securing their interests. Without that, you may have to make huge deposits, or not be able to rent at all. For example, in my area (touristy) you can not rent a car on debit or cash. You must use a credit card. Around here most hotel rooms require a credit card as well. This is different from area to area, but credit cards are nearly universally accepted.

  3. Emergencies - If you're using your credit card properly, then you have some extra padding when stuff goes wrong. For example, it may be cheaper to place a bill on a credit card for a couple months while you recover from a car accident, than to deplete your bank account and have to pay fees.

Bonus - Some cards have perks, like miles, points, or cash back. Some can be very beneficial. You need to be careful about the rules with these bonuses. For example, some cards only give you points if you carry a balance. Some only give miles if you shop at certain stores. But if you have a good one, these can be pretty fantastic. A 3% cash back on purchases can make a large difference over time.

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    There can be. US law says that (not totally complete) that you are responsible for no more then $50 of a credit card charge if that charge was made fraudulently, or $0 if it was a Card not present transaction. There are no such protections on debt cards (though a lot of banks add them in). Same is true with purchases. With credit cards Visa makes the decision to charge back. With debt cards the seller makes the decision. http://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/050214/credit-vs-debit-cards-which-better.asp for more info. – coteyr Aug 17 '16 at 16:23
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    @Agent_L If your debit card is compromised the day you pay your bills then those payments will come back with insufficient funds. Even if a bank agrees to give you the money back from the fraudulent charges immediately, it is unlikely they'd also pay the fees that will likely be associated with those NSF payments. If your credit card is compromised then you can still pay all your other bills and there's no time delay to get money put back in your account because it never left. – Dean MacGregor Aug 17 '16 at 16:27
  • @DeanMacGregor This is benefit of having separate account that's innate to a credit card, but replicating this with debit is merely a matter of opening another account. Good point though. – Agent_L Aug 17 '16 at 16:30
  • @Agent_L well opening multiple credit cards doesn't require liquid cash to set aside in a new checking account. Having multiple debit cards does. – Dean MacGregor Aug 17 '16 at 16:35
  • @Agent_L We must be defining what a debit card is differently then. A debit card here, pretty much be definition, is a card linked to your checking account that takes money out as soon as you make a purchase. A debit card associated with a $0 balance account would be worthless. – Dean MacGregor Aug 17 '16 at 16:45
  • @coteyr: I know what a debit card is, but I don't know what a debt card is. I thought it was a typo, but you are using that term consistently, so maybe you have a different concept in mind and that's what's causing the confusion in this comment chain. – Adrian McCarthy Aug 17 '16 at 16:49
  • @DeanMacGregor Right! My reasoning is that if you have money destined to be spent via debit card it doesn't matter if it's on your bills account or on your debit card account. The credit card ability to spend money you don't have is different thing than security. I thought that you're talking about some kind of frozen deposit required to open an account at all. – Agent_L Aug 17 '16 at 16:50
  • @Agent_L Yes but having 8 checking accounts requires you to keep more funds liquid than having 1 or 2 checking accounts and 6 or 7 credit cards. – Dean MacGregor Aug 17 '16 at 17:01
  • Building credit by using the card, waiting for the bill, paying it on time and in full, every month.
  • – Xalorous Aug 17 '16 at 23:29
  • @Agent_L you and Dean are both right. The difference is that he's describing a method by which you increase your credit rating by regularly using a credit card. At the same time you pay it off monthly so you don't carry a balance and pay the interest associated with that. It is true that you are spending money that is not yours, but if you go beyond what you can afford, you hit the penalty of having to pay interest. The increase in safety of credit over debit is that it's THEIR money out there on the street if there's a dispute. With debit, YOUR money is on the street. – Xalorous Aug 17 '16 at 23:35
  • @Agent_L Also credit card has a limit. That is the worst hit you could possibly be liable for. Debit has a different limit, which is your balance, but you could be overdrawn, and depending on your account setup, you could have overdraft protection drawing against savings or a credit card, so there's even more that you could lose. – Xalorous Aug 17 '16 at 23:37
  • @coteyr I was wrong and you're right - legislation that gives additional protection to credit card purchases is more common than unified treatment of all payment instruments as equal. – Agent_L Aug 18 '16 at 07:09
  • @Xalorous About limits: Ability to overdraft (via offline transactions) depends only on the card supporting offline transactions. Credit card can be overdrawn just as debit. If the use was unauthorized, then most legislations place a limit on user's liability that's way smaller than credit limit anyway. And if user overdrafted, he owes full amount anyway. – Agent_L Aug 18 '16 at 08:38