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Now I have not studied math for very long. I have just completed Calculus1, although my knowledge extends a bit outside of this.

My question is, how can the transforms below be justified

$$ a^{n/m} \, = \, \left( a^{1/m} \right)^{n} \, = \, \left( a^{n} \right)^{1/m} $$

when $n$ and $m$ can be any real number?

Now the statement above is easily proven for the natural numbers.

For an example we can can see that these rules makes sense when dealing with real numbers.

$$ 8^{2/3} \, = \, \left( 8^{1/3} \right)^{2} \, = \, \left( 8^{2} \right)^{1/3} $$

But I just can not wrap my head around how we can justify the below algebraic manipulations

$$ 2^{\pi/e} \, = \, \left( 2^{1/e} \right)^{\pi} \, = \, \left( 2^{\pi} \right)^{1/e} $$

As I have problems understanding what $2^{\pi} $ means. How would one go about multiplying a number by itself $\pi$ times?

Someone said that this exponent rule, could be explained by something called dedikins cuts, or something like that. Any insight to answer my silly questions is greatly appreciated.

  • Is there a general proof of exponent rule $a^{n/m}$ when $n$ and $m$ belongs in the reals?
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  • once youve defined $a^x$ for real $x$, such a rule is superfluous. the interesting part is going from $a^x$ for integers, to rationals, then to reals (or complex numbers) – yoyo Dec 15 '11 at 22:52
  • That is what I am looking for "yoyo" =) – N3buchadnezzar Dec 15 '11 at 22:58
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    One way is to define $a^b$ ($a > 0$) to be the supremum of $a^r$ over all rationals $r \leq b$. – Dylan Moreland Dec 15 '11 at 23:16
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    $x^a = e^{a \ln x}$ for $a$ rational... – The Chaz 2.0 Dec 15 '11 at 23:41
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    Use continuity... ? – M Turgeon Dec 16 '11 at 00:52
  • Do you have a definition for $a^b$ for arbitrary $b$ ($a\gt 0$), or not? If not, then your question should start by asking how to define it; if yes, then you need to specify what that definition is. – Arturo Magidin Dec 16 '11 at 01:08
  • Your question is really why $(a^r)^s = a^{rs}$ where $r$ and $s$ are real numbers. It's misleading to write them as $n$ and $1/m$, especially given that $n$ and $m$ are usually used to denote integers. – Arturo Magidin Dec 16 '11 at 01:51
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    Exponentiation only denotes "repeated multiplication" in the most basic of cases. After that, one expands the domain by changing the definition. See this previous question. Just like multiplying by $3$ is initially thought of as "adding to itself three times", but stops making sense thought of that way once we go past integer factors to rational or real factors. "What does $\pi\times\sqrt{2}$ mean? ow do you add $\pi$ to itself $\sqrt{2}$ times?" – Arturo Magidin Dec 16 '11 at 01:53

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The definition of $a^x$ can be done in steps.

For $x$ a nonnegative integer and $a\neq 0$, we define $a^x$ inductively: $a^0 = 1$, and $a^{n+1} = a^n\times a$. By mathematical induction this defines $a^m$ for all nonnegative integers $m$.

It is then a further exercise in induction to prove that $a^na^m = a^{n+m}$, $(ab)^n = a^nb^n$, and $(a^n)^m = a^{nm}$. For instance, fixing $n$, we prove that $a^na^0 = a^{n+0}$ (true, since $a^0=1$ by definition); assuming that $a^na^m = a^{n+m}$, then $$a^n(a^{m+1}) = a^n(a^ma) = (a^na^m)a = a^{n+m}a = a^{(n+m)+1} = a^{n+(m+1)}.$$

We can also define $0^n$ for any positive $n$ by letting $0^1 = 0$, $0^{n+1} = 0^n0$.

Having defined $a^n$ for all nonzero real numbers $a$ and all nonnegative integers $n$, we extend the definition to negative integers as follows: if $m$ is a negative integer, $m=-n$ with $n$ a positive integer, then we define $$a^m = a^{-n} = \frac{1}{a^n}.$$

It is now easy to check that $a^na^m = a^{n+m}$ still holds for any integers $n$ and $m$, that $(ab)^n = a^nb^n$, and that $(a^n)^m = a^{nm}$. We deal with the case of negative integer exponents by using the definition. For example, to show $a^{n+m}=a^na^m$, we note that if $n,m\geq 0$, then we have already proven it. If $n\gt 0$, $m\lt 0$, and $n+m\geq 0$, then $$a^{-m}a^{n+m} = a^{n+m-m} = a^n$$ by the positive case, and multiplying both sides by $\frac{1}{a^{-m}} = a^m$ gives the equality. Similar arguments hold if $n+m\lt 0$. If both $n$ and $m$ are negative, then taking reciprocals reduces to the positive case.

Having defined $a^n$ for all $a\neq 0$ and all integers $n$, we extend the definition to rational numbers. In order to do that, we need to use some facts about the real numbers, and we need to restrict our choice of $a$: we can only do the following if $a\gt 0$.

Given a positive integer $q$, $a^{1/q}$ is defined to be the unique real number $r$ such that $r^q = a$. Such a number exists by the Intermediate Value Theorem (consider the function $f(x) = x^q$) and is unique (the function $f(x)=x^q$ is strictly increasing on $[0,\infty)$).

Then given a rational number $p/q$ with $p$ and $q$ relatively prime, $q\gt 0$, we define $a^{p/q} = (a^{p})^{1/q}$. If $n$ and $m$ are arbitrary integers, we define $a^{n/m}$ to be $a^{p/q}$, where $\frac{n}{m}=\frac{p}{q}$ and $p$ and $q$ are relatively prime, and $q\gt 0$.

This definition restricts to the previous definition when $q=1$: by definition, $a^{p/1}= (a^p)^1$ is the unique real number $r$ such that $r^1 = a^p$; that is, $a^{p/1} = a^p$.

Then one shows that this definition still satisfies the exponentiation rules: $a^{p/q}a^{r/s} = a^{(p/q)+(r/s)}$, $(ab)^{p/q} = a^{p/q}b^{p/q}$, and $(a^{p/q})^{r/s} = a^{pr/qs}$.

For example, to show that $a^{(p/q)+(r/s)} = a^{p/q}a^{r/s}$, it suffices to show that $a^{p/q}a^{r/s}$ is the unique real number which, when raised to the $qs$th power, gives $a^{ps+qr}$, since $\frac{p}{q}+\frac{r}{s} = \frac{ps+qr}{qs}$. But this is merely an assertion about integer powers, so we can use the already established properties: $$(a^{p/q}a^{r/s})^{qs} = (a^{p/q})^{qs} (a^{r/s})^{qs} = ( ( a^{p/q})^q)^s( ( a^{r/s})^s)^q.$$ Now, $a^{p/q} = b$ means that $b^q = a^p$. So $$ ((a^{p/q})^q)^s = (a^p)^s = a^{ps}.$$ Similarly, $((a^{r/s})^s)^q = a^{rq}$. So $$(a^{p/q}a^{r/s})^{qs} = a^{ps}a^{rq} = a^{ps+rq},$$ which proves that $a^{p/q}a^{r/s} = a^{(ps+rq)/qs} = a^{(p/q) + (r/s)}$.

Etc.

Having defined exponentiation for rational exponents, we extend it to exponentiation for any real number in one of several ways:

One way is as follows: Given a real number $r$, let $q_n$ be an increasing sequence of rational numbers such that $q_n\to r$. Then we define $a^r = \lim\limits_{n\to\infty}a^{q_n}$.

One needs to show that this is well-defined (the limits exists, and if $p_n$ is a different sequence of rationals converging to $r$, then the limit of $a^{p_n}$ equals the limit of $a^{q_n}$). This can be done; if you do that, then the fact that $(a^r)^s = a^{rs}$ follows by showing that if $p_n\to r$ and $q_m\to s$, then showing that $$ \lim_{m\to\infty}\lim_{n\to\infty}(a^{p_n})^{q_m} = \lim_{m\to\infty}\lim_{n\to\infty}a^{p_nq_m}$$ will converge to the same thing as $a^{p_nq_n}$, and therefore to $a^{rs}$.

Alternatively, one can define $a^r$ is the supremum of $a^{p/q}$ with $p/q$ rational numbers smaller than $r$. There is no issue of well-definedness here ($a^r$ exists and is unique), and then one just needs to show that we can express rationals smaller than $rs$ in terms of rationals smaller than $r$ and rationals smaller than $s$, and then use the properties of the exponentiation that we already know for rationals.

An entirely different approach is to define the exponential function $e^x$ using a Taylor Series: $$e^a = \lim_{n\to\infty}\left(1 + \sum_{k=1}^n\frac{a^k}{k!}\right),$$ then showing that this has the "usual" properties, defining the logarithm as its inverse, and finally defining $a^b = e^{b\ln a}$. Then the rule $(a^b)^c = a^{bc}$ follows directly from the properties of the logarithm.

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    Another one of those posts where one suspects it must be from you before scrolling down to the name :-) +1 not least for the attention to detail in separating out the $1$ to avoid $0^0$ :-) – joriki Dec 16 '11 at 11:19
  • I have a question, how can I define this $$a^{p/q} = (a^{p})^{1/q}$$ , is not one of the properties we are trying to prove? I really like a lot the explanation and I know is me who is wrong but I really don't understand how can I justify that definition – kprincipe Mar 28 '18 at 22:14
  • @kprincipe: There is no a priori meaning for what $a^{p/q}$ means. We get to decide what it means. Since $r^{1/q}$ is defined to be "the unique nonnegative number $a$ such that $a^q=r$" (which is a sensible definition), we can define "$a^{p/q}$" to mean "the $q$th root of $a^p$". Then you prove that with this definition, the laws of exponents hold, and in particular you will also have that $(a^p)^{1/q} = a^{p/q}$. The point is, until you define it to be something, "$a^{p/q}$" has no meaning. – Arturo Magidin Mar 29 '18 at 04:14
  • I know that this post has a long time but can you explain me a little more the extension to the negative number i dont get what we are trying to prove there and I dont understand when you say that we multiply both sides with the equality – kprincipe Nov 23 '19 at 17:42
  • Dont worry i got it, i forgot to read something which helped me. Thanks again for your great answer – kprincipe Nov 23 '19 at 17:51
  • Sorry to bother again, can you show me the other part of the negative numbers when n+m<0 – kprincipe Nov 24 '19 at 00:32
  • @kprincipe: If $n+m\lt 0$, with $n\gt 0$ and $m\lt 0$, then $-m-n\gt 0$ with $-m\gt 0$ and $n\lt 0$, so looking at $\frac{1}{a^{n+m}}$ reduces to the previous case. – Arturo Magidin Nov 24 '19 at 01:01
  • When you say it reduces to the previous case I know i have bother you and i am sorry i am pretty bad traying to grasp this would it be to much to show me the rest like you did with the positive case if not dont worry for a question so much years ago you have helped me a lot – kprincipe Nov 24 '19 at 22:52
  • @kprincipe: “reduces to the previous case” means exactly that: you can then solve it by applying the previous case. Set $M=-n$ and $N=-m$. Then $N\gt 0$, $M\lt 0$, and $N+M\gt 0$, so the previous case, applied to $N$ and $M$, gives you the solution. What it really looks like, though, is that you don’t want, or cannot, do the work and want me to spell it out in complete detail for you. If I had wanted to spell it out in complete detail, I would have done so. It is good for you to figure it out on your own. It doesn’t help you at all to have it pre-chewed, pre-digested, and then fed to you. – Arturo Magidin Nov 24 '19 at 23:01
  • I am still working to understand it myself, still has not made it but i wanted to know if a definition i made is correct, is $a^{n+m} = \frac{1}{a^{-m-n}}$? – kprincipe Nov 25 '19 at 03:30
  • @kprincipe: Read paragraph 4. Honestly, this is my last comment on this 7+ year old post. – Arturo Magidin Nov 25 '19 at 03:34
  • I would like to see this "entire different approach using properties of the logarithm", because my impression is that in order to prove these properties, one faces exactly the problem that one wants to solve, namely the rule of exponentiation. – Bodo Manthey Oct 08 '20 at 05:56