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I need to solve for $(n_1, n_2, m)$ (where $m, n_1, n_2$ are all integers - may be +ve or -ve) satisfying $m^2=n_1^2+n_1n_2+n_2^2$.

I have found 2 solutions so far - $(3, 5, 7)$ and $(7, 8, 13)$. What is a general solution?

UPDATE: For my purpose, it is further needed that $\gcd(n_1, m) = \gcd(n_2, m) = 1 $.

hola
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This equation is symmetric so many solutions.

Generally speaking, this equation has a lot of formulas for the solution. Because it is symmetrical.

Write the formula can someone come in handy. the equation:

$Y^2+aXY+X^2=Z^2$

Has a solution:

$X=as^2-2ps$

$Y=p^2-s^2$

$Z=p^2-aps+s^2$

more:

$X=(4a+3a^2)s^2-2(2+a)ps-p^2$

$Y=(a^3-8a-8)s^2+2(a^2-2)ps+ap^2$

$Z=(2a^3+a^2-8a-8)s^2+2(a^2-2)ps-p^2$

more:

$X=(a+4)p^2-2ps$

$Y=3p^2-4ps+s^2$

$Z=(2a+5)p^2-(a+4)ps+s^2$

more:

$X=8s^2-4ps$

$Y=p^2-(4-2a)ps+a(a-4)s^2$

$Z=-p^2+4ps+(a^2-8)s^2$

For the particular case: $Y^2+XY+X^2=Z^2$ You can draw more formulas.

$X=3s^2+2ps$

$Y=p^2+2ps$

$Z=p^2+3ps+3s^2$

more:

$X=3s^2+2ps-p^2$

$Y=p^2+2ps-3s^2$

$Z=p^2+3s^2$

In the equation: $X^2+aXY+bY^2=Z^2$ there is always a solution and one of them is quite simple.

$X=s^2-bp^2$

$Y=ap^2+2ps$

$Z=bp^2+aps+s^2$

$p,s$ - integers asked us.

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    Did you explain why this gives us ALL the solutions? – Jyrki Lahtonen Jun 01 '14 at 06:24
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    The method of calculation must be shown. I still can't do it. Part of these formulae is the consequence of more complex formulas. Can this topic show. http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/738446/solutions-to-ax2-by2-cz2/740425#740425 – individ Jun 01 '14 at 06:37
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I'll first address the gentleman INDIVID why he prefers, in over 90% of his answers, to give results without proofs or links/reference to sources. One can hardly learn from such methods even if the results are concrete. Given; $m^2=n_1^2+n_1n_2+n_2^2$. We have, $n_1^2+n_1n_2+n_2^2-m^2=0$, a quadratic in $n_1$, hence, for the discriminant we have, $n_2^2-4(n_2^2-m^2)=k^2$ or $(2m)^2-3n_2^2=k^2$ for some integer $k$. Now, all rational pell equation of the above form has solutions given by $(r^2-d)^2=(r^2+d)^2-d(2r)^2$ for any $r$. Hence, by direct comparison, $d=3$, $n_2=2r$, $2m=r^2+3$ and $k=r^2-3$ where $r$ is any odd integer, a condition which ensures $m$ is an integer. Now, $n_1$ must be an integer, since $k$ and $n_2$ have the same parity.

  • It is not clear why $n_1^2$ in this case is a perfect square. You have not also mentioned what do you mean by 'of the above form', I mean the exact form of the equation. – hola Jun 01 '14 at 07:34
  • $n_1$ need not be a perfect square but the discriminant of the quadratic in $n_1$ need be a perfecr square, for from $n_1^2+n_1(n_2)+(n_2^2-m^2)=0$ we have $2n_1=-n_2 p\m \sqrt(4m^2-3n_2^2)$ so that necessarily, $(4m^2-3n_2^2)=k^2$ a perfect square.

    For you second question; given the integer $d$, any equation of the form $x^2-dy^2=z^2$ has the general, integer, solutions $x=r^2+d$, $y=2r$ and $z=r^2-d$ for any integer $r$

    – user145342 Jun 01 '14 at 10:17
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Method $1$

The remarkable equation $x^2 + pxy + y^2 = z^2$ where $p$ is a fixed integer. The well-known pythagorean equation is obtained for $p = 0$, and your question for $p=1$.

The solutions of this equation has been completely determined, all integral solutions to this equation are given by: $$x = k(pn^2 −2mn)$$ $$ y = k(m^2 −n^2)$$ $$ z = k(pmn−m^2 −n^2)$$ where k,m,n are integral parameters.

Method $2$ We can notice that your equation is equivalent to $$(2n_1+n_2)^2+3n_2^2=(2m)^2$$ The solutions of the equation $x^2+3y^2=z^2$ are also completely determined, see for example here, otherwise there is a generalization here.

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Elaqqad
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  • And why this answer gave? I wrote this formula. – individ Feb 19 '15 at 04:10
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    In all your answers,you give results without proofs or links/reference to sources, here I include some resources for the proofs, because we don't want a lot of formulas. we want to solve an equation and in this case we need a proof (if you want a collection of formulas you can find them here:https://sites.google.com/site/tpiezas/005b ) but the most important thing is some explication explaining how did you find this formulas, and if you don't have a complete answer (the complete solution of the given question) don't answer it let professionals do it. – Elaqqad Feb 19 '15 at 13:04