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Let

$$ K=\left\{\frac{1}{n}\quad |\quad n\in \mathbb{N}\smallsetminus \{0\}\right\}\subset \mathbb{R}$$

and consider the sets

$\mathcal{A}=\left\{(a,b) \quad | \quad a,b\in\mathbb{R}, \quad a<b\right\},\quad\quad \mathcal{B}=\left\{(a,b)\cap (\mathbb{R}\smallsetminus K) \quad | \quad a,b\in \mathbb{R}, \quad a<b\right\}$

(a) Prove that $\mathcal{A}\cup \mathcal{B}$ is a basis for a topology $\tau$ on $\mathbb{R}$.

(b) Prove that the euclidean topology $\tau_e$ on $\mathbb{R}$ is not finer than $\tau$.

(c) Determinate the interior, the closure and the boundary of $K$ in $(\mathbb{R}, \tau)$.

(d) Establish whether $(\mathbb{R},\tau)$ is a separable topological space.

(e) Show that $(\mathbb{R},\tau)$ is not $T_3$.

I've found that:

(a) $\mathbb{R}$ is union of elements of $\mathcal{A}$ because $\mathbb{R}=\bigcup\limits_{a<b} (a,b)$, so, $\mathbb{R}$ is union of elements of $\mathcal{A}\cup \mathcal{B}$.

Now, if I choose $U,V\in \mathcal{A}\cup\mathcal{B}$, I have three cases:

  1. If $U=\emptyset$ or $V=\emptyset$, then $U\cap V=\emptyset$ that is union of elements of $\mathcal{A}$.
  2. If $U=\mathbb{R}$ or $V=\mathbb{R}$, then $U\cap V=V$ (or $U\cap V=U)$, so, I have that $U\cap V\in \mathcal{A}\cup\mathcal{B}$ in both cases.
  3. If $U\in \mathcal{A}$ and $V\in\mathcal{B}$, then

$$U\cap V=(a,b)\cap [(c,d)\cap (\mathbb{R}\smallsetminus K)]=(a,b)\cap(c,d)\cap (\mathbb{R}\smallsetminus K)=(\max\{a,c\}, \min\{b,d\})\cap (\mathbb{R}\smallsetminus K)$$ that is emptyset or it's an element of $\mathcal{B}$, so, even in this case we have $U\cap V\in \mathcal{A}\cup \mathcal{B}$.

So, $\mathcal{A}\cup\mathcal{B}$ is a basis for a topology on $\mathbb{R}$.

(b) Clearly, the euclidean topology is contained in $\tau$ because all the euclidean open sets are generated from the elements of the family $\mathcal{A}$. Moreover, I say that the two topology cannot coincide because in (e) it is requested to prove that $\tau$ is not $T_3$ and the euclidean topology is $T_3$ instead. It's not a great solution but I think it works. I would like to find an open set in $\tau$ that is not an euclidean open set, but I haven't succeeded yet.

(c) I've found that $K^\circ=\emptyset$ and $\overline{K}=\partial K=[0,+\infty)$. I'm not really sure of this answer.

(d) I think that it is because

$\mathcal{A}=\left\{(a,b) \quad | \quad a,b\in\mathbb{Q}, \quad a<b\right\}\cup \mathcal{B}=\left\{(a,b)\cap (\mathbb{R}\smallsetminus K) \quad | \quad a,b\in \mathbb{Q}, \quad a<b\right\}$ is a countable basis of $(\mathbb{R},\tau)$ and so $2$-countability implies separability.

(e) I built a counterexample choosing the point $x=\frac{2}{3}$ and the closed set $C=(-\infty,0]\cup K$, do they work?

Is it correct? Any suggestions for the unsure answers?

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Some of this is correct, but there are some problems.

a.)

You correctly showed the union of the basis is $\mathbb R$, but you seem confused about what to do for the second part. Neither $\emptyset$ nor $\mathbb R$ are members of $\mathcal A\cup\mathcal B$, so cases 1 and 2 are irrelevant. If $U,V\in\mathcal A\cup \mathcal B$ then the three possibilities to consider are that both are in $\mathcal A$, both are in $\mathcal B$, or one is in each. You have only considered the third one.

You have asserted that $U\cap V\in \mathcal A\cup \mathcal B$, but that is neither true ($\emptyset \notin \mathcal A\cup \mathcal B$), nor what you have to prove.

What you must prove (may help to review the basic criteria B1 and B2 for when a set is a basis for a topology) is that if $x\in U\cap V$ for $U,V\in \mathcal A\cup \mathcal B$, then there is some $W\in \mathcal A\cup \mathcal B$, with $x\in W\subseteq U\cap V$.

As to how to prove this, your argument in 3 basically does the trick, once you generalize it for the cases $U,V\in \mathcal A$ and $U,V\in \mathcal V$. Since you have shown that either $U\cap V\in \mathcal A\cup \mathcal B$, or $U\cap V= \emptyset$, if we begin with $x\in U\cap V$ we must only consider the first of these cases, and then can take $W=U\cap V$.

b.)

Your argument is fine, but to be explicit, $\mathbb R\backslash K$ is open in $\tau$ (see comment on c) below) but is not Euclidean open.

c.)

$K^\circ$ is indeed empty (since no basis element is a subset of $K$), however $K$ is closed (since $\mathbb R\backslash K=\bigcup \mathcal B$ is open, as a union of basis members), so $\overline{K}=\partial K= K$.

d.)

This argument is correct, though you could also directly observe that $\mathbb Q$ intersects every basis element, and is therefore a countable dense subset, if you wanted to be explicit. The latter is slightly preferable because you avoid using the fact that second countability implies separability, which requires the (countable) axiom of choice.

e.)

This example does not work, since $x\in \left(\frac{7}{12},\frac{9}{12}\right)$, and $C\subseteq \left(-\infty,\frac{7}{12}\right)\cup \left(\frac{11}{12},\infty\right)$. More generally, for all the points $x\neq 0$, the set of closed Euclidean neighborhoods of $x$ form a neighborhood basis, so you must choose $x=0$ to get a counterexample.

Then you can take $C=K$, and note that if $U\ni 0$ and $V\supseteq K$ are open, then $V$ is Euclidean open, and $0$ is in the Euclidean closure of $V$, so every Euclidean neighborhood $(a,b)\ni 0$ intersects $V$. Since this intersection is open, and $K$ has no interior, we also have $((a,b)\backslash K)\cap V\neq \emptyset$, so every basic neighborhood of $0$ must intersect $V$, hence $U$ must intersect $V$.

M W
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  • So, the only example to prove that the space was not $T_3$ is choosing $x=0$ and $K$? – Sigma Algebra Jan 13 '24 at 22:23
  • To prove that $\mathcal{A}\cup\mathcal{B}$ was a basis, I tried to apply the basis's existance theorem showing that $\mathbb{R}$ is union of elements of $\mathcal{A}\cup\mathcal{B}$ and showing that if $U\cap V$ is intersection of two elements of $\mathcal{A}\cup\mathcal{B}$, then it can be written as union of elements of $\mathcal{A}\cup\mathcal{B}$ – Sigma Algebra Jan 13 '24 at 22:28
  • I can't understand why $K$ is closed :'( – Sigma Algebra Jan 13 '24 at 22:33
  • @SigmaAlgebra that's basically fine about the "basis existence theorem" (I haven't heard of it but its correct and equivalent to the criteria in the wikipedia article), but you can't say flat out that $U\cap V\in \mathcal{A}\cup \mathcal{B}$, since that is generally not true. As for showing the space is not $T_3$, you must pick $x=0$, and your closed set must intersect $K$ in some sequence that converges (in Euclidean topology) to $0$. – M W Jan 13 '24 at 22:33
  • @SigmaAlgebra The explanation I gave for why $K$ is closed was "since $\mathbb R∖K=\bigcup \mathcal B$ is open, as a union of basis members". Which part of that is causing confusion? – M W Jan 13 '24 at 22:36
  • What makes me doubtful is this fact: $\mathbb{R}\setminus K=(-\infty,0]\cup \left(\frac{1}{3},\frac{1}{2}\right)\cup \left(\frac{1}{4},\frac{1}{3}\right)\cup....\cup (1,+\infty) $. Is it correct? If it is, why this thing is open? – Sigma Algebra Jan 13 '24 at 22:39
  • @SigmaAlgebra It is open because it is equal to $\bigcup \mathcal B$, which is a union of open sets. The fact that you can also write it a different way as a union of sets that aren't all open doesn't mean anything at all - for example, any open set $U$ in any topological space can be written as $\bigcup_{x\in U} {x}$, even though singletons aren't typically open sets. – M W Jan 13 '24 at 22:47
  • I got it now, but, how can I recognize that $\mathbb{R} \setminus K=\bigcup \mathcal{B}$ without writing it as union of elements of $\mathcal{B}$? – Sigma Algebra Jan 13 '24 at 22:52
  • @SigmaAlgebra Every element of the left hand side is an element of the right hand side and vice-versa: if $x\in \mathbb R\backslash K$ then, for example, $x\in (x-1,x+1)\backslash K\in \mathcal B$, so $x\in \bigcup \mathcal B$, and if $x\in \bigcup \mathcal B$, then for some $(a,b)$ we have $x\in (a,b)\backslash K\subset \mathbb R\backslash K$. – M W Jan 13 '24 at 23:07
  • Clear, thanks a lot, it was not easy – Sigma Algebra Jan 13 '24 at 23:14
  • No problem, glad to help. – M W Jan 13 '24 at 23:14