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For this identity of the delta function: $$ \int_{-\infty}^\infty f(x)\delta(g(x)) = \sum_{n = 1}^N\int_{-\infty}^\infty dx f(x)\frac{\delta(x-x_n)}{|g'(x_n)|} $$

Where $x_n$'s are zeros of $g(x)$. Does it still hold if the integrand goes from $0$ to $\infty$ instead?

Thanks!

IGY
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  • Does it matter if it's $\pm$? It looks like the second term is $0$ anyway – Ninad Munshi Dec 17 '22 at 02:59
  • @Ninad Munshi Thanks for the comment, I just updated my question. – IGY Dec 17 '22 at 11:33
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    It works as long as the zeroes of $g$ are inside the interval $(0,+\infty)$ – Lorenzo Pompili Dec 17 '22 at 11:58
  • @Lorenzo Pompili Thanks, actually the zeros of $g$ in my case are symmetric with respect to $0$, but $f(x)$ is an even function. – IGY Dec 17 '22 at 12:11
  • The symbol $\int_{-\infty}^\infty $ used here is an abuse of notation. The Dirac Delta is not a function. And the symbol $\int_{-\infty}^\infty$ in the context of the Dirac Delta is not an integral. – Mark Viola Dec 17 '22 at 16:24
  • What are the regularity assumptions on $f$ and $g$? Are they measurable? What guarantees that $g$ has a finite number of zeros? Is it a polynomial? What is the meaning of $\delta(g(x))$? How do you integrate distributions? – vizietto Dec 18 '22 at 10:04

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Edit: I tried to make my answer a bit more precise after some discussion in the comments.

I want to add the following elements to the discussion.

  1. The formula you wrote above makes sense only for regular enough (let's assume $g$ is a $C^1$ function) and suitable enough functions $g$ (for instance, the zeroes of $g$ must be isolated and $g'(z_0)\neq 0$ for any $z_0$ such that $g(z_0)=0$; the second condition actually implies the first one). In this hypothesis, the formula you wrote above works (in the sense that any of the two quantities is well-defined as soon as the other one is well-defined, and in that case they coincide; so for instance, the sum on the right hand side must be finite, or if it's an infinite series it must converge absolutely; or the series could actually diverge, so in that case the integral is $+\infty$ or $-\infty$ if your series diverges independently on the rearrangement of the summands). If your function $g$ is suitable enough, you can in fact integrate the above expression from zero to infinity, but you miss all the zeroes of $g$ that lie in the interval $(-\infty,0]$. Even if the zeroes of $g$ and the function $f$ are even with respect to zero, you need to multiply by $2$ to make the formula work because you need to count each zero twice.

  2. What I just wrote only works if $0$ is not a zero of $g$, i.e., $g(0)\neq 0$. If $g(0)=0$, then you really have to think on what you are doing. In this case, you should specify whether you are integrating on the interval $(0,\infty)$ or $[0,\infty)$ to decide whether to include $0$ in the sum on the right-hand side. So, in short, if you just integrate from $0$ to infinity, you have to be careful in seeing where your zeroes of $g$ lie.

  3. In response to the comments of @Mark Viola: given a Radon measure $\mu$ and a smooth (I think bicontinuous is enough) change of variables $\tau$, it is possible to define the pull-back measure $\mu\circ\tau$ such that $$ \mu\circ\tau(A)=\mu(\tau(A)), $$ and it is possible to integrate a function with respect to that measure. You can even do things more generally without assuming that your function $\tau$ is invertible (check the first answer of this question). So even if the Dirac delta is not a function (in the mathematical sense), it is still a Radon measure, and you can compose measures with functions under suitable assumptions. And you can integrate continues functions $f$ against a Radon measure (assuming the integral is well defined, so either $f$ is sign-definite, or either the positive or the negative part of $f$ have finite integral); more generally, you can integrate Borel-measurable functions. So no, that integral is not an abuse of notation, it is actually a proper integral in the measure-theoretic sense (I am hiding a lot of details under the carpet, but I think the idea is clear).

Edit.

  1. A comment on the answer by C4P. Unless I am mistaken, it always makes sense the integral $$ \int_I fd\delta(x), $$ where $I$ is any interval. You just need to make sure that $I$ is a Borel set (any interval is measurable if we consider Radon measures) and $f$ is a measurable function (continuous functions are Borel-measurable). And clearly, you also need to assume that $f$ is sign-definite, or that the integral of the positive part and the integral of the negative part of $f$ are not both $+\infty$, but this comes for free for the Dirac delta. In the case of the Dirac delta, though, you need to be careful in saying whether your interval is open or closed, essentially because the set $\{0\}$ has non-zero measure.
Lorenzo Pompili
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    I agree with the possible definition of $\delta$ as a measure gives the possibility to look at any interval. This is a possible extension of the Dirac distribution on discontinuous test functions. Warning for the user however, some properties of the Dirac delta distribution might not be true anymore (approximations of the Dirac delta, derivatives etc ...). One can normally avoid arriving to such integral in any practical situation. – LL 3.14 Dec 18 '22 at 10:54