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Note that my attempted method below is distinct from the solutions in this question.

I also know this is generally true for $\sqrt p + \sqrt q + \sqrt r$ where $p,q,r$ are prime, but I am asking if my particular method works.

Prove that $\sqrt 2 + \sqrt 3 + \sqrt 5$ is irrational.

Assume that $\sqrt 2 + \sqrt 3 + \sqrt 5 = \frac pq$ for some $p,q \in \mathbb Z$, in lowest terms, with $q \neq 0$. Then at most one of $p$ and $q$ can be even. Then

\begin{align*} \sqrt 2 + \sqrt 3 + \sqrt 5 &= \frac pq\\ \\ (\sqrt 2 + \sqrt 3 + \sqrt 5)^2 &= \left(\frac pq \right)^2\\ \\ 2(5+\sqrt 6 + \sqrt{10} + \sqrt{15})&=\frac{p^2}{q^2}\\ \\ 2q^2(5+\sqrt 6 + \sqrt{10} + \sqrt{15})&=p^2 \end{align*}

which shows that $p^2$ is even, so $p$ is even and let $p=2k$ for some $k\in \mathbb Z$. Substituting this we get

\begin{align*} 2q^2(5+\sqrt 6 + \sqrt{10} + \sqrt{15})&=(2k)^2\\ \\ q^2(5+\sqrt 6 + \sqrt{10} + \sqrt{15})&=2k^2\\ \\ q^2 &= 2 \left(\frac{k^2}{5+\sqrt 6 + \sqrt{10} + \sqrt{15}}\right), \end{align*} which shows as well that $q$ is even, a contradiction. Hence $\sqrt 2 + \sqrt 3 + \sqrt 5$ is irrational.

MathFail
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    As $5+\sqrt 6 + \sqrt {10} + \sqrt{15}$ is not an integer, we can not conclude $p^2$ is even. Nor could we conclude $q^2 = 2\frac k{5+\sqrt 6 + \sqrt{10}+\sqrt {15}}$ implies $q^2$ is even. – fleablood Aug 11 '22 at 22:22
  • Ah, okay. That was the part I was unsure about. – pyridoxal_trigeminus Aug 11 '22 at 22:24
  • It would imply that that $\sqrt 6 + \sqrt{10} + \sqrt{15}$ is rational. You can repeat with letting $\sqrt 6 + \sqrt {10} +\sqrt {15} = \frac {p^2}{2q^2} - 5 = \frac mn$ and continue. It would be very inefficient but it would eventually end. – fleablood Aug 11 '22 at 22:27
  • One approach is to compute the minimal polynomial - it is the 3rd Swinnerton-Dyer polynomial - and show that it is irreducible (well by definition minimal polynomials are irreducible). – Thomas Preu Aug 11 '22 at 22:28
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    More straightforward and short is if $\sqrt 2 + \sqrt 3 + \sqrt 5 = r\in \mathbb Q$ then $\sqrt 3+ \sqrt 5 = r-\sqrt 2$ and then square both sides to get $3+5 + 2\sqrt{15}=r^2-2r\sqrt 2 + 2$. Isolate one radical and square again and you get an equate with just one radical in it. That implies that last radical is rational and you can easily prove it is not. – fleablood Aug 11 '22 at 22:36
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    Does this answer your question? Prove that $\sqrt{2}+\sqrt{3}+\sqrt{5}$ is irrational. Generalise this.. Please check if your question has already been asked before using Approach0 or SearchOnMath. – Toby Mak Aug 12 '22 at 08:21

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$$2(5+\sqrt 6 + \sqrt{10} + \sqrt{15})=\frac{p^2}{q^2}$$

This step, you cannot conclude the LHS is an even integer.

You can try this: Assume $\sqrt{2}+\sqrt{3}+\sqrt{5}=r_1$ be rational.

$$\sqrt{2}+\sqrt{3}=r_1-\sqrt{5}\Leftrightarrow 2\sqrt{6}=r_1^2-2\sqrt{5}r_1\Leftrightarrow \sqrt{6}+\sqrt{5}r_1=\frac{r_1^2}{2}=r_2 \\ \\ \Leftrightarrow \sqrt{6}=r_2-\sqrt{5}r_1\Leftrightarrow 6=r_2^2+5r_1^2-2r_1\sqrt{5}\Leftrightarrow \sqrt{5}=\frac{r_2^2+5r_1^2-6}{2r_1}$$

$\sqrt{5}$ is irrational , but RHS is rational, so you get contradictions.

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There are infinite primes of the form $p=120k+61$ by Dirichlet's theorem. For any of them we have that $3$ and $5$ are quadratic residues, since $p\equiv 1\pmod{15}$, while $2$ is not a quadratic residue since $p\equiv 5\pmod{8}$. Assume that $\sqrt{2}+\sqrt{3}+\sqrt{5}=\frac{a}{b}$ and take a prime $p$ of the previous form with $p> \max(5,b)$. Since $\left(\frac{2}{p}\right)=-1$ while $\left(\frac{3}{p}\right)=\left(\frac{5}{p}\right)=1$, the minimal polynomial of $\sqrt{2}+\sqrt{3}+\sqrt{5}$ over $\mathbb{F}_p$ has degree $2$. In particular $\sqrt{2}+\sqrt{3}+\sqrt{5}$ cannot be an algebraic number with degree $1$ over $\mathbb{Q}$, i.e. a rational number.

Alternative approach. Always assuming $\sqrt{2}+\sqrt{3}+\sqrt{5}=q\in\mathbb{Q}$ we have $$ 8+2\sqrt{15}=(\sqrt{3}+\sqrt{5})^2 = (q-\sqrt{2})^2 = (q^2+2)-2q\sqrt{2},$$ $$ 2\sqrt{15}+2q\sqrt{2} = (q^2-6),$$ $$ (60+8q^2) + 8q \sqrt{30} = (q^2-6)^2, $$ $$ \sqrt{30} = \frac{(q^2-6)^2-(60+8q^2)}{8q} $$ but the last line implies $\sqrt{30}\in\mathbb{Q}$ which we know not to be the case.

Both approaches can be easily extended for proving that $\sum_{k=1}^{n}\sqrt{p_k}\not\in\mathbb{Q}$ for any collection of primes $p_k$.

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No. What if $5+\sqrt{6}+\sqrt{10}+\sqrt{15} = \frac{17}{2}$? (I don't think it is, but you certainly haven't shown that it isn't.)

  • A better rational approximation of the value is 29/2. – Dan Aug 11 '22 at 22:25
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    I guess a better rational approximation in the sense of supplying an answer to the question would be $0$, whereupon we manifestly can tell nothing at all about $q$ :P – Patrick Stevens Aug 11 '22 at 22:25
  • (But yes, that would be a minor quibble which the usual argument of $\sqrt{2}$'s irrationality also tends to sweep under the cover.) – Patrick Stevens Aug 11 '22 at 22:27