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I'm studying for qualifying exams, and this problem has me stumped. It should be straightforward (the definitions are fundamental), but I can't figure out the trick.

Let $G$ be any group and let $g$ be any element of $G$. Define the twisted commutator $T_g$ by $$ T_g := \{x \in G \mid \exists k\in\Bbb Z, xgx^{-1}=g^k\}$$ Assume that $g$ has finite order in $G$. Prove that $T_g$ is a subgroup of $G$.

So, I've tried showing that if $x,y\in T_g$, then $xy^{-1} \in T_g$. First, it's nonempty since $ege^{-1} = g^1 = g$, so $e \in T_g$. I've also shown by induction that $$ (xgx^{-1})^m = xg^mx^{-1} = g^{km}$$ if $x \in T_g$ (and so $xgx^{-1} = g^k$). This is where I get stuck. If $x,y \in T_g$, we have $xgx^{-1} = g^k$ and $ygy^{-1} = g^l$ for some $k,l \in \mathbb Z$. Then we have $$ (xy^{-1})g(xy^{-1})^{-1} = (xy^{-1})g(yx^{-1}) = x(y^{-1}gy)x^{-1} $$ Now I know that $ygy^{-1} = g^l$, but I don't know how to work with $y^{-1}gy$ and to show that it's equal to some $g^{l'}$. And if I could, that would give me $xg^{l'}x^{-1} = (g^k)^{l'} = g^{kl'}$, and I'm done. Is this related to the fact that $|g| < \infty$? I've also thought about $\langle g\rangle$, the cyclic group generated by $g$ which would have finite order, but I don't know how to relate that to this problem.

Any help is much appreciated!

Shaun
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dorkichar
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    I think that what you call the commutator of $g$ is more commonly called the centralizer of $g$ in $G$. – Jyrki Lahtonen Jun 01 '22 at 02:51
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    Note that because conjugation by $x$ is an automorphism of $G$, if $xgx^{-1}=g^k$, then $g^k$ must have the same order as $g$. Thus, it must be a generator of $\langle g\rangle$, and therefore there exists $t$ such that $(g^k)^t = g$. That means that $x^{-1}gx = x^{-1}(g^k)^tx = (x^{-1}g^kx)^t = g^t$. – Arturo Magidin Jun 01 '22 at 02:52

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Your "twisted commutator" is simply the normalizer of $\langle g\rangle$, because $g$ has finite order.

Recall that if $G$ is a group and $H$ is a subgroup, the normalizer of $H$ in $G$, $N_G(H)$, is the set $$N_G(H) = \{g\in G\mid gHg^{-1}=H\}.$$

Proposition. For every subgroup $H$, $N_G(H)$ is a subgroup of $G$ that contains $H$. Moreover, $N_G(H)$ is the largest subgroup $M$ of $G$ such that $H\triangleleft M$.

Proof. It is clear that $e\in N_G(H)$, so $N_G(H)$ is nonempty. If $x,y\in N_G(H)$, then $(xy)H(xy)^{-1} x(yHy^{-1})x = xHx^{-1}=H$, so $xy\in N_G(H)$. Thus, $N_G(H)$ is closed under products. And if $x\in N_G(H)$, then $xHx^{-1}=H$ implies $H=x^{-1}Hx$, so $x^{-1}\in N_G(H)$, thus proving that $N_G(H)$ is a subgroup of $G$.

Now, $hHh^{-1}=H$ for every $h\in H$, so $H\leq N_G(H)$. Clearly, $H\triangleleft N_G(H)$. And if $H\triangleleft M$ for some $M\leq G$, then for every $m$ in $M$ we have $mHm^{-1}=H$, so $m\in N_G(H)$. Thus, $N_G(H)$ is the largest subgroup of $G$ containing $H$ where $H$ is normal. $\Box$

Corollary. If $g$ has finite order, then $T_g=N_G(\langle g\rangle)$. In particular, $T_g$ is a subgroup of $G$.

Proof. If $x\in T_g$, then $xgx^{-1}=g^k$ for some $k\in\mathbb{Z}$. Therefore, $x\langle g\rangle x^{-1} = \langle xgx^{-1}\rangle = \langle g^k\rangle\subseteq \langle g\rangle$. But because $g$ has finite order, and $|xgx^{-1}|=|g|$, we know that $\langle xgx^{-1}\rangle$ and $\langle g \rangle$ have the same finite order, so in fact $\langle xgx^{-1}\rangle = \langle g\rangle$. Thus, if $x\in T_g$, then $x\in N_G(\langle g\rangle)$.

Conversely, if $x\in N_G(\langle g\rangle)$, then $xgx^{-1}\in x\langle g\rangle x^{-1} = \langle g\rangle$, so $xgx^{-1}=g^k$ for some $k\in\mathbb{Z}$, so $x\in T_g$.

Thus, $T_g=N_G(\langle g\rangle)$, as claimed. $\Box$


If you want to prove this directly, it is easier to use the two-step subgroup test. Clearly, $e\in T_g$, and if $x,y\in T_g$, then $xy\in T_g$, since $$(xy)g(xy)^{-1} = x(ygy^{-1})x^{-1} = xg^{k_2}x^{-1} = (xgx^{-1})^{k_2} = (g^{k_2})^{k_1} = g^{k_2k_1}.$$

Now, if $x\in T_g$, then $xgx^{-1}\in\langle g\rangle$. But because $\langle xgx^{-1}\rangle$ has the same number of finite elements as $\langle g\rangle$, it follows that $\langle xgx^{-1}\rangle = \langle g\rangle$. Thus, there exists $t\in\mathbb{Z}$ such that $g = (g^k)^t = g^{kt}$. Therefore, $$x^{-1}gx = x^{-1}(g^{kt})x = (x^{-1}g^kx)^t = g^t$$ (since $xgx^{-1}=g^k$ implies $x^{-1}g^kx = g$), hence $x^{-1}\in T_g$. Thus, $T_g$ is a subgroup of $G$.

The result does not necessarily hold if $g$ has infinite order. This is because the collection of all $x$ such that $x\langle g\rangle x^{-1} \subseteq\langle g\rangle$ need not be closed under inverses when $g$ is infinite. An example can be extracted from this answer.

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