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I have to show that the sequrnce $\{a_n\}$ with $a_{n+1}=\sqrt{6+a_{n}}$ is bounded, i know : $a_{n-1}<a_{n}$ because i demonstrated this. I tied to use this relation: $ab\leq \frac{a^2}{2}+\frac{b^2}{2}$. I don't kow how to increase $\sqrt{6+a_{n}}$

PinkyWay
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rider
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    See https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/850472/prove-convergence-of-sequence-defined-recursively-a-n1-sqrt6a-n or https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/115501/sqrtc-sqrtc-sqrtc-cdots-or-the-limit-of-the-sequence-x-n1-sq, or these: https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/linked/115501 – Martin R Nov 01 '20 at 10:25
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    Assume that $a_n\geq 6$, then $$a_{n+1} =\sqrt{6+a_n} \leq {2a_n} \leq \sqrt{a_n^2}=a_n.$$ – Severin Schraven Nov 01 '20 at 10:28
  • (The $2an$ in the above comment should of course be $\sqrt{2a_n}$) – Calvin Khor Nov 01 '20 at 10:43
  • Can you please show us how you demonstrated $a_{n - 1} < a_n$? – ViktorStein Nov 01 '20 at 10:46
  • Sorry, iI don't understand how can prove that this sequence is bounded! – rider Nov 01 '20 at 10:47
  • I prove it by induction @ramanujan , $a_{1}=0$ – rider Nov 01 '20 at 10:47

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Here's a non-formal trick which can help you on these recurrence problems. But one must be careful and prove that $a_n > 0$ and monotonic first so that $b \geq 0$. You can prove $a_n > 0$ easily with induction and since you've already proven it is increasing let's get straight to the point. $$\lim a_{n+1} = \lim \sqrt{6+a_n} = b = \lim a_n$$

So $b = \sqrt{6+b} \Leftrightarrow b^2-b-6 = 0 \Leftrightarrow (x+2)(x-3) = 0 \Leftrightarrow b = 3 \lor b = -2$. Since $b \geq 0$ then $b = 3$.

We conclude that the limit of this monotonic and positive recurrence sequence is $3$, so it becomes closer and closer to 3 from below. Meaning $a_n \rightarrow 3^-$.

This should not be your proof; just a side calculation that helps you get the supremum for $\{a_n\}_{n=1}^{\infty}$. We will use it to show that $a_n$ is bounded above.

Now we must demonstrate it with a formal proof (by induction) that for all $n \in \mathbb{N}, a_n < 3$. Since we are saying "for all $n$" it must be also true for $n+1 = n'$.

Our base case ($n=1$) is trivial since $a_1 = \sqrt{6} < 3$.

Now assuming $p(n):= a_n < 3$ is true, we must show that $p(n+1) = a_{n+1} < 3$ is also true.

In fact, $$a_n < 3 \Leftrightarrow a_n + 6 < 3 + 6 \Leftrightarrow \sqrt{6 + a_n} < \sqrt{3 + 6} = 3$$

But $\sqrt{6+a_n} = a_{n+1}$ for which $a_{n+1} < 3$ and the condition holds true for all $n$.

So we proved by induction that $0 < a_n < 3$ for all $n \in \mathbb{N}$.

ludicrous
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$a_n\leq 3$ can be proved by induction:

Induction base: $a_1=0\leq 3$.

Assume that $a_n\leq 3$, then we have $a_{n+1}=\sqrt{6+a_n}\leq \sqrt{6+3}=3$

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Claim. If $a_n$ is increasing, then $a_n<3$.

Otherwise, if $a_n\ge 3$, for some $n\in\mathbb N$, then

Case A. $a_n=3$, then $a_{n+1}=\sqrt{a_n+6}=\sqrt{3+6}=\sqrt{9}=3$. Hence $a_n$ is not increasing.

Case B. $a_n>3$. Then $a_{n+1}>a_n>3$ and $$ a_{n+1}-a_n=\sqrt{a_n+6}-a_n=\frac{\sqrt{(a_n+6}-a_n)(\sqrt{a_n+6}-a_n)}{\sqrt{a_n+6}+a_n}\\=\frac{a_n+6 -a_n^2}{\sqrt{a_n+6}+a_n}=-\frac{(a_n+2)(a_n-3)}{\sqrt{a_n+6}+a_n}<0. $$ Contradiction.

Hence, $a_n$ is upper bounded by $3$ and lower bounded by $a_1$.

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Hint: Let $f(x)=\sqrt{6+x}$ for $x \ge -6$. Prove that

  • $f(x) \ge x$ when $ -6 \le x \le 3$

  • $f(x) \le x$ when $ 3 \le x$

Apply this result to $a_{n+1}=f(a_n)$ and conclude that the sequence is monotone.

lhf
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