This question is about the basic chain rule (and I think of it when I read about calculation of variation in defining distance in manifold using usual Riemannian metrics) and is related to the another (temporarily deleted) post https://math.stackexchange.com/q/3769640/577710 I cite it here for my reference, as a reminder of the oringinal question.
The context of the question is as follows: it seems Riemannian metrics are defined as a kind of inner product or 2-tensor so that we can define inner product and norm of tangent vectors, particularly ones along the curve segment (with two ends $p, q$ fixed) whose length is used to define the distance between any two points $p, q$ in $M$.
When we calculate the length of the shortest curve $\gamma$ between $p, q$ in $\mathbb{R}^2$, say $\gamma={(t, f(t))}$, using the usual metric, $L_\gamma=\int \sqrt{\gamma_1'(t)^2+\gamma_2'(t)^2} =\int \sqrt{1+(f'(t))^2}dt$, we may define $F(t, f(t), f'(t))=1+(f'(t))^2$.
My question is,
- in my eyes, the three 'independent' variables of $F$ are obvious not independent, then why we define an $F$ as such, instead of defining $F$ to have less variables? Is it, for example, just for the convenience of calculation?
- And even if independent variables are not independent, we can still use chain rule to calculate $dF/dt$, i.e. $$\frac{dF}{dt}=\frac{\partial F}{\partial t}+\frac{\partial F}{\partial f}\frac{df}{dt}+\frac{\partial F}{\partial f'}\frac{d(f')}{dt}?$$
If we think further, the 2nd questions can be broken down to two more fundamental aspects.
2-1. Actually that practice seems common when we decompose a function into a composition of functions, for example, $r=1$ is the radius of a unit circle, we can decompose $r$ into $r=\sqrt{x^2+y^2}$ and $x=\cos \theta, y =\sin \theta$, where $r(x,y)$ is a function of two 'dependent' variables. And using the chain rule we get $$\frac{dr}{d\theta}=\frac{\partial r}{\partial x}\frac{dx}{d\theta}+\frac{\partial r}{\partial y}\frac{dy}{d\theta}=-\cos \theta\sin\theta+\cos \theta\sin\theta=0.$$ So an aspect of the 2nd question may be restated as follows: can we always decompose a function into the composition of a function of 'dependent' variables and some other functions and still use the chain rule?
2-2. We notice that $F$ here is decomposed into $f$ and $f'$, which are obviously more 'dependent' than normal 'dependent' variables like the above $x$ and $y$. It causes some convolution. I will use an example to illustrate the point.
$h=x^2+2x, u=x^2, v=2x$, and so $u'=v$, if so there is obvious not a single way to write h as a function of $u$ and $v$ (similarly there can be more than a way to write $F$ as a function of $t, f(t), f'(t)$), as (1) algebraic expressions of $u, v$ (2) as differential and integral equations of $u, v$, e.g. $$h=u+v, h=v^2/4+v, h=(\int v)+v, h=u+u',h=v^2/4+u'.$$
Such non-uniqueness of decomposition makes me wonder, can we still use chain rule and get the same result? and how we know, given $h, u, v$, how to write $h$ as a function of $u,v$? Will the case (2) cause more complicated issues than case (1)? And would anyone name specific fields dealing with these issues, if there is any?
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s on $\gamma_i'(t)$, and at least one square root. Perhaps you meant to say that $L^2$ equals the given expression. ii. It appears that English is not your first language. I find reading what you wrote very difficult, perhaps because many of your sentences are long. Consider splitting into shorter sentences to aid clarity. – John Hughes Jul 27 '20 at 11:44