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A rope of 1m is divided into three pieces by two random points. Find the average length of the largest segment.

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Someone had a solution:

let the cuts be at $X, Y$, with $Y \gt X$:

Image of cut positions

Then each piece is equally likely to be the longest, and the expected length of the longest piece doesn't depend on which piece we choose. Then we can calculate $\mathop{\mathbb{E}}(X|X \text{ is the longest piece} )$.

We have the three inequalities: $$X \gt Y-X \implies Y < 2X$$ $$X \gt 1-Y \implies Y > 1-X$$ and, from our setup, $$Y \gt X$$ These can be represented by the following diagram:

Diagram of inequalities

Then the area satisfying our inequalities is the two triangles A and B. So we wish to find the expected value of $X$ within this area.

The expected value of $X$ in A is $\bar{X}_A = \frac{1}{2}-\frac{1}{3}(\frac{1}{2}-\frac{1}{3}) = \frac{8}{18}$.

The expected value of $X$ in B is $\bar{X}_B = \frac{1}{2}+\frac{1}{3}(\frac{1}{2}) = \frac{4}{6} = \frac{12}{18}$

The area of A is $A_A = \frac{1}{2} \times \frac{1}{2}\times (\frac{1}{2}-\frac{1}{3}) = \frac{1}{24}$.

The area of B is $A_B = \frac{1}{2} \times \frac{1}{2}\times \frac{1}{2} = \frac{1}{8} = \frac{3}{24} = 3 A_A$.

So $\mathop{\mathbb{E}}(X|X \text{ is the longest piece} ) = \frac{\tfrac{8}{18} + 3\left(\tfrac{12}{18}\right)}{4} = \frac{11}{18}$

I understand everything but I got lost when he said calculate expected value of $X$ within triangles. How do you exactly find the expected value of $X$ over the triangle $A$ and $B$? How did he come up with $\mathop{\mathbb{E}}(X|X \text{ is the longest piece} )$?

Ted
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$X$ is a linear function on each triangle. The average value of a linear function on a triangle is the average of its values at the three vertices.

Anonymous
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In your problem, $\bar{X}_A$ is the $x$-coordinate of triangle A's center. To calculate it, use that the center of a triangle is situated at $1/3$ of any edge center.

savoga
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