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I am doing a project about irrational and transcendental numbers and I was wondering how could I construct a "new" transcendental number. I know that all Liouville numbers are transcendental so this could be a good place to start however I wish to try and create one not necessarily belonging to that group of numbers. In addition to this I am aware of Liouville's theorem surrounding transcendental numbers and have also found a proof to how that the theorem is true and holds for Liouville's constant.

Once again I know about the Gelfond-Schneider theorem but the same idea applies. I would like to stay away from obvious substitutions i.e. $4^{\sqrt{17}}$ is transcendental but not really "interesting". Also any strange theorems I would like to try and prove for the sake of completion. I don't want to just assert something and just have it there. I would like to be as thorough as possible.

Any help is greatly appreciated and thanks in advance

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Take your favorite polynomial, $p(x) := x^2-x-1$, and your favorite transcendental number $c := \pi$. The number $p(c)$ is transcendental.

The key to transcendental numbers is polynomials with integer or rational coefficients. If $p(c)$ was algebraic, then there exists polynomials $q(x)$ such that $q(p(c))=0$ but then the composition $r(x):=q(p(x))$ is also a polynomial and $r(c)=0$ which would imply that $c$ is algebraic. The contrapositive statement is now proven.

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  • Thanks!! Is there anyway to prove this? Also I feel like that I should also prove that π is transcendental and my lecturer has told me that that is outside the scope of my project. –  Jan 28 '19 at 13:07
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    @AntRobinson the composition of polynomials is a polynomial, so if $p(c)$ was root of a polynomial, then so would be $c$ – Pedro Jan 28 '19 at 13:26
  • Brilliant thanks! –  Jan 28 '19 at 13:28
  • Sorry to be pain but could you link where yo got this idea from? Is it from a book, just so that I have an extra reference for my report –  Jan 28 '19 at 14:20
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    I think it's cheating to invoke known transcendentals such as $ \pi $ or $e$ when "finding" a new one. – Carl Witthoft Jan 28 '19 at 20:23
  • @CarlWitthoft: You may be interested in my answer, where we can compute a transcendental by just diagonalizing against algebraics. – user21820 Jan 29 '19 at 10:26
  • @user21820 Thanks! Now I know waaaaay more about transcendentals than I needed to :-) – Carl Witthoft Jan 29 '19 at 12:16
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Every algebraic number is computable, so every uncomputable number is transcendental.

You have a wide variety of uncomputable numbers to choose from. If you object that you cannot 'construct' them, then you will have to be more precise in what you mean by 'construct'. After all, you cannot really 'construct' $π$ anyway; you can only compute finitely many digits of it.

Diagonalizing against algebraic numbers produces a computable transcendental number.

Basically, you can computably enumerate all triples $(Q,x,y)$ where $Q$ is an integer polynomial and $x,y$ are rationals such that $x<y$. Thus you can write an explicit program that represents a real $r$ in $[0,1)$ (i.e. on input $k$ outputs the $k$-th ternary digit), computing the $k$-th digit $d$ of $r$ as follows. Let $(Q,x,y)$ be the $k$-th triple in the enumeration. If $Q(x) < 0 < Q(y)$, then use binary search to find some $z ∈ [x,y]$ such that $Q(z) = 0$ to $k$ ternary digits, and let $d$ be the least digit (i.e. $0$ or $1$) that differs from the $k$-th digit of $z$. Otherwise, let $d = 0$.

You can prove that every algebraic number will be diagonalized against by $r$, since $r$ is a simple root of some nonzero polynomial (because every multiple root of a nonzero integer polynomial with multiplicity $m$ is a simple root of the $(m-1)$-th derivative of that polynomial), and every nonzero integer polynomial has finitely many roots so each root will be the unique root in some sufficiently small rational interval around it.


Someone pointed out to me an alternative diagonalization, which is to computably enumerate all nonzero integer polynomials and compute the desired real $r = 0.\cdots$ by iteratively appending extra binary digits to avoid the roots of each polynomial in the enumeration. Consider each enumerated polynomial $Q$, and let $d$ be its degree. Then choose any $(d+1)$ distinct extensions of the current $r$ (at most $\log_2(d+1)+1$ extra digits are needed), and let $s$ be one of them that is not a root of $Q$, which exists since $Q$ has at most $d$ roots. Compute some rational $δ > 0$ such that $Q(x) ≠ 0$ for every $x ∈ [s-δ,s+δ]$. (You can get this by unfolding the proof of continuity of $Q$ at $s ∈ [0,1]$, since $|Q(s)| > 0$.) Thus we can append extra digits to $r$ to ensure that the final $r$ is in the interval $[s-δ,s+δ]$. (At any point if $r$ has $k$ binary digits then the final $r$ would be in $[r,r+2^{-k}]$.)

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  • In general, if we represent computable reals by digit-generating programs or rational approximation programs, there is a program $D$ that, given as input any program $A$ that enumerates a collection of computable reals, will produce as output some computable real not enumerated by $A$. The proof is exactly the same. So for example you can use $D$ to construct a computable real that is not expressible using arithmetic, polynomial-roots, exponentiation, logarithms, trigonometric functions, and whatever other (computable) special functions you wish. – user21820 Jan 29 '19 at 12:33