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It is defined as $i^2 = -1$ then we can say $i=\pm \sqrt{-1}$

Then is true that $i$ can be equal to $ -\sqrt{-1}$

Tianlalu
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Siddharth
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  • Things can go terrible wrong and turn out to be disastros this way. For example $-1=i^2=i.i=\sqrt(-1)\sqrt(-1)=\sqrt(1)=1$. The point is, the square root is not defined for negative numbers –  Nov 26 '18 at 06:45
  • @James I agree wholeheartedly, but I think to properly address the question, one must explain why $i$ is not defined by $i^2=-1$. – Rushabh Mehta Nov 26 '18 at 06:46
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    Lots of misinformation here. The symbol $\sqrt\cdot$ denotes the principal square root, which is perfectly well defined for negative and complex numbers. The problematic step in the "proof" that $-1=1$ is not $-1=i^2$ but rather $\sqrt{-1}\sqrt{-1}=\sqrt{-1\cdot-1}$, because $\sqrt x\sqrt y=\sqrt{xy}$ is no longer generally true for complex numbers. –  Nov 26 '18 at 07:14

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I've found that a lot of mathematicians get irked by saying $i = \sqrt{-1}$ for various reasons pertaining to the algebra. (I'm not kidding, I had a professor rant about this one day.) For example, here's just one consequence of that definition:

$$i^2 = (\sqrt{-1})(\sqrt{-1}) = \sqrt{-1 \cdot -1} = \sqrt{1} = 1 \neq -1$$

Needless to say, bad idea.

I honestly don't know how to really think about it other than the following: that we just say $i$ is some constant with the property $i^2 = -1$. We don't philosophize about what $i$ itself is, we just know it has this property, and go from there.

$i$ and complex analysis wouldn't even be the weirdest case of such constants. Personally, until I adapted this philosophy, I found the dual numbers and split-complex numbers even worse to wrap my head around. These are systems similar to complex numbers, except $i$ is defined differently: in the dual numbers, $i^2 = 0$, and in the split-complex numbers $i^2 = 1$. Imagine how that begins to break if we try to solve for $i$: it starts looking like "why are we even doing this?"

And of course there are even other systems with more complicated units. For example, the quarternions use units $i, j, k$ satisfying

$$i^2 = j^2 = k^2 = ijk = -1$$

which is also weird to wrap your head around in terms of trying to find $i, j, k$. There are even more systems beyond the quaternions. If you think about the powers of $2$, there is a number system for each that is basically $2^n$-dimensional:

  • $2^0 = 1 \Rightarrow$ real numbers ($\mathbb{R}$)
  • $2^1 = 2 \Rightarrow$ complex numbers ($\mathbb{C}$)
  • $2^2 = 4 \Rightarrow$ quaternions
  • $2^3 = 8 \Rightarrow$ octonions
  • etc.

Philosophizing about what the unit itself actually is gets all of the more screwy in these systems - be they alternate definitions of $i$ that produce alternatives to complex numbers, or systems with even more units than just $i$.

Honestly, all I really think we would use the $i = \sqrt{-1}$ definition for is simplifying radicals and such, but even then you circumvent that by saying the following... Let $x > 0$. Then

$$\sqrt{-x} = i \sqrt{x}$$

You don't even bother with the notion of "square root of a negative" or "square root of negative one" in this way, you just say "this is how you find the square root of a negative by definition."

I'm not sure how this notion of $i = \sqrt{-1}$ really got started. Maybe we actually started with that in defining complex analysis, and people ignored its contradictions and such? I feel like at least in the modern era that it does have the use in our middle/high school algebra classes insofar as making the simplification of radicals easier to understand. (Since we're taught that $\sqrt{ab} = \sqrt{a} \cdot \sqrt{b}$) early on, saying $\sqrt{-x} = \sqrt{-1} \cdot \sqrt{x} = i \cdot \sqrt{x}$ makes more intuitive sense, especially to a teeanger, a novice, right?)

So perhaps the issue is inaccurate teaching maybe? Or perhaps just the human desire to want to know what $i$ itself is, and taking the square root of each side of its definition ($i^2 = -1$) makes for the simplest conclusion? I'm not really sure. I think overall, though, it's just easier to accept $i^2 = -1$ - that whatever $i$ really is, we don't know, but it has that property.

Of course this might sound dumb but this is just my take on the issue. Though I suppose I can understand any ire I might get over "well, it's dumb and unscientific to just take it on faith that $i^2 = -1$ without knowing what $i$ is." It's just the best way I've been able to come to terms with this.

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    "I'm not sure how this notion of $i=\sqrt{-1}$ really got started." Well it's how the complex numbers were born, actually. It traces from Cardan's method for solving solving the equation $x(10-x) = 40$, in 1545. Which yields a manipulation of $\sqrt{-15}$, and complex numbers were first manipulated as square roots of negatives, until 1777 when Euler used the notation $i = \sqrt{-1}$. The usual definitions of $\mathbb C$ as we know them came later. – Mariuslp Nov 26 '18 at 09:43
  • Hm, that's interesting. However tangentially, that did bring to mind yet another alternative: that maybe we can say $i = \sqrt{-1}$, but that the laws for exponentiation/roots/etc. would need to be defined differently in $\mathbb{C}$ than in $\mathbb{R}$ in order to contend with various contradictions that the definition otherwise presents. – PrincessEev Nov 26 '18 at 19:52