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As in @RobertZ's answer to this question, we often perform substitutions when evaluating limits. For instance, if you're asked to show that $$ L = \lim_{t \to 0} \frac{\sin t^3}{t^3} = 1, $$ it's pretty common to say "Let $x = t^3$; then as $t \to 0$, we have $x \to 0$, so $$ L = \lim_{x \to 0} \frac{\sin x}{x} $$ which we know is $1$, and we're done."

What's going on here in general is an application of the following "Theorem"

Theorem 1: If the function $g$ satisfies [fill in missing properties] and $$\lim_{t \to a} g(t) = b,$$ then $$ \lim_{t \to a} f(g(t)) = \lim_{x \to b} f(x), $$ i.e., one limit exists if and only if the other does, and if they both exist, they're equal.


In the example above, $f(x) = \frac{\sin x}{x}$ and $g(t) = t^3$ and $a = b = 0$.


There's an alternative form, in which we're asked to show that $$ L = \lim_{t \to 0} \frac{\sin \sqrt[3]{t}}{\sqrt[3]{t}} = 1, $$ it's pretty common to say "Let $t = x^3$; then as $t \to 0$, we have $x \to 0$, so $$ L = \lim_{x \to 0} \frac{\sin x}{x} $$ which we know is $1$, and we're done."

In this case, the implicit theorem is very similar to the other, but with the role of $g$ reversed (i.e., we're substituting $ t = x^3$ instead of $x = t^3$, so the natural form of the theorem puts $g$ on the other side):

Theorem 2: If the function $g$ satisfies [fill in missing properties] and $$\lim_{x \to b} g(x) = a,$$ then $$ \lim_{t \to a} f(t) = \lim_{x \to b} f(g(x)). $$


In the second example above, we have $a = b = 0$, $f(t) = \frac{\sin \sqrt[3]{t}}{\sqrt[3]{t}}$, and $g(x) = x^3$.

The two theorems are obviously the same: if you swap $a$ and $b$, $x$ and $t$, and reverse the equality in the last line, they're identical. But each represents a different approach to working with limits, so I've stated both.

In the second form, it's clearly important that $g$ be surjective near $a$ (i.e., for every small enough interval $I = (b-\epsilon, b + \epsilon)$, there's an interval $I' = (a-\delta, a + \delta)$ such that $I- \{b\} \subset g(I' - \{a\})$. (Hat-tip to MathematicsStudent1122 for the observation that I need to delete $a$ and $b$ from those intervals). Otherwise you could use things substitutions like $s = t^2$, which would turn a two-sided limit into a one-sided one (or vice versa), in which case one limit might exists and the other might not.

Addendum to clarify why this might matter, for @MathematicsStudent1122:

Consider $$f(x) = \begin{cases} 1 & x \ge 0 \\ 0 & x < 0 \end{cases}.$$

and look at $L = \lim_{x \to 0} f(x^2)$. It's clear that $L$ exists and is $1$. But if we substitute $t = x^2$, then we get $L = \lim_{t \to 0} f(t)$, which does not exist; hence this "substitution" is not valid: I've turned what amounts to a 1-sided limit (which exists) into a two-sided limit (which does not exist). The domains of $f$ and $g$ are both all of $\Bbb R$.

(End of addendum)

My question is this:

What is a reasonable set of missing properties for each of these theorems? (I can work out the exact properties easily enough by running through the definitions, but they don't seem to be very helpful/checkable.)

One answer might be "$g$ is locally a bijection", but that rules out things like $y = x + x\sin \frac{1}{x}$ near $x = 0$, so it seems too limited. (It also rules out things like $x \mapsto x + \sin x$ for limits as $x \to \infty$, which is a pity.)

I recognize that this is not a strictly mathematical question. But my goal is to come up with a "calculus student's theorem", one that says "if you're trying to work out a limit, which may or may not exist, then it's OK to do substitutions of this sort along the way," and which will cover the vast majority of the problems that they might encounter in a standard calculus book, or even in Spivak's book.

This question gives two theorems, but both have assumptions about the existence of limits. This one comes a little closer, but still isn't entirely satisfactory.

I'd love any nice-enough condition to be broadly useful. In particular, I think it's completely reasonable to require, for instance, that the "substitution function" $g$ be continuous, and perhaps even differentiable (although I doubt that's of much use).

John Hughes
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  • Related: https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/2319969/is-the-proof-of-lim-theta-to-0-frac-sin-theta-theta-1-in-some-high-s – Jack D'Aurizio Aug 20 '17 at 15:03
  • Great point, @JackD'Aurizio. That may be the first place where this particular stunt bothered me. :) – John Hughes Aug 20 '17 at 15:04
  • So that's part of the quest for the Holy Grail of all lazy students, the Grand Unified Formula Of All Textbook Exercises? ;-) –  Aug 20 '17 at 15:06
  • The two-sided, one-sided limit thing isn't an issue. The limit definition simply considers $x$ in the domain of $f$. This is why we can unambiguously say that $$\lim_{x \to 0} \sqrt{x} = 0$$

    In other words, we simply consider $$x \in \text{dom} \ f \ \cap \ (x-\delta, x+\delta) $$

    – MathematicsStudent1122 Aug 20 '17 at 15:15
  • @MathematicsStudent1122: see the addendum inserted to address your question. – John Hughes Aug 20 '17 at 15:32
  • @JohnHughes Okay. I think looking for a condition on $g$ is the wrong way to think about it. The most natural condition is that $f$ is continuous at $b$. – MathematicsStudent1122 Aug 20 '17 at 15:33
  • And that condition is too weak, as using a discontinuous $g$ may cause the limit of $f \circ g$ to not exist while the limit of $f$ does. – John Hughes Aug 20 '17 at 15:39
  • It's also not much use in showing that the limit of $f$ does not exist, which is often the goal. – John Hughes Aug 20 '17 at 15:41
  • @JohnHughes Do you have an example where it fails when $f$ is continuous? – MathematicsStudent1122 Aug 20 '17 at 15:44
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    Substitutions like $t=x\sin \frac{1}{x}$ simply don't always work. If we let $g(x) = x\sin \frac{1}{x}$ and $f(x) = 1$ for $x=0$ and $f(x) = 0$ for $x \neq 0$, then we can note that $$\lim_{x \to 0} f(g(x))$$ does not exist, but $$\lim_{y \to 0} f(y)$$ does exist. – MathematicsStudent1122 Aug 20 '17 at 15:56
  • Good point about that $x \sin (1/x)$ substitution; thanks. I've slightly edited the discussion of the second theorem to use punctured intervals and reflect that observation. – John Hughes Aug 20 '17 at 16:13
  • You can find a good proof here . The condition you need is that $f(x)\neq a$ in some punctured neighborhood of $b$. I think this is what you are after. – Matematleta Aug 20 '17 at 16:23
  • @ChilangoIncomprendido Flip it to $g(x)\ne a$. And I believe you can have $g(x)=a$ in a punctured neighborhood of $b$ if $f$ is continuous. – Simply Beautiful Art Aug 20 '17 at 16:25
  • Personally I avoid using limit theorems because they are too limiting. For the example you mention, my solution is as follows. As $t \to 0$, let $x = \sqrt[3]{t}$ and then we have $x \to 0$ and so $\sin(x) / x \to 1$. This kind of asymptotic analysis is powerful enough that CASes in fact use it to compute essentially all kinds of limits of elementary functions such as this one. – user21820 Aug 20 '17 at 16:29
  • OK... so let $t = x^2$; then as $x \to 0$, we have $t \to 0$...but in the example after theorem 2, this doesn't work. It's actually more subtle than just that kind of glib substitution, which is part of why my question was such a long one. – John Hughes Aug 20 '17 at 16:34
  • Your concern is genuine but it appears that you are trying to think too hard about it. You may want to have a look at this answer which addresses your concerns adequately : https://math.stackexchange.com/a/1073047/72031 – Paramanand Singh Aug 20 '17 at 17:43
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    @ParamanandSingh: Well...I've mused about it on miscellaneous occasions for about 45 years, but I thank you for pointing out that I've bene wasting my time. :) Your answer in that linked case is the easy one --- the one that only goes one direction. I want to know that if I make a substitution and the origiinal limit does NOT exist, then the new limit is also guaranteed to not exist. – John Hughes Aug 20 '17 at 18:07
  • To be fair: the theorem quoted at the end of that answer is pretty near to what's needed; the theorem at the start isn't. I can't say that I like the requirement that $g$ be invertible, though...I'll work on drafting an answer that satisfies me a bit more. – John Hughes Aug 20 '17 at 18:31
  • I did not mean to disrespect your efforts in this direction and perhaps my comment has been misinterpreted. But the theorems mentioned in my answer are sufficient for the purposes of handling limit problems which one encounters in typical books like Spivak. Moreover while evaluating limits step by step one must follow procedures which don't assume existence of limit. I normally use a version of algebra of limits which doesn't require existence of limits. – Paramanand Singh Aug 20 '17 at 21:31

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I'm afraid this isn't quite what you're after, but it seems to be a decent starting point. These conditions, while restrictive, appear to be necessary for the following proof.

Assume $\lim_{x\to a}g(x)=b$, where the function $g$ also satisfies: $$ \text{there exists a neighborhood $U$ of $a$ such that $b\not\in g(U\setminus\{a\})$} \tag{1}$$ and for each $(y_n)$ converging to $b$ with $y_n\ne b$, $$ \text{there exists $(x_n)$ such that $g(x_n)=y_n$ for large $n$ and $x_n\to a$}. \tag{2}$$

Then we show that $$\lim_{x\to a}f(g(a)) = \lim_{y\to b}f(y).$$

Proof:

Let $L_1:=\lim_{x\to a}f(g(a))$ and $L_2:=\lim_{y\to b}f(y)$, either of which may or may not exist. We will use the sequential criterion.

First suppose $L_2$ exists and let $(x_n)$ be a sequence such that $x_n\to a$ and $x_n\ne a$ for all $n$. Since $\lim_{x\to a}g(x)=b$, we have $g(x_n)\to b$. Due to $(1)$, we have $g(x_n)\ne b$ for $n$ large enough. Then, because $L_2$ exists, we have $f(g(x_n))\to L_2$. This proves by the sequential criterion that $L_1$ exists and $L_1=L_2$.

Now assume $L_1$ exists and let $(y_n)$ be a sequence such that $y_n\to b$ and $y_n\ne b$ for all $n$. By $(2)$ there exists a sequence $(x_n)$ such that $g(x_n)=y_n$ for large $n$ and $x_n\to a$. Since $y_n\ne b$ for all $n$, we have $x_n\ne a$ for large $n$. Then $$ \lim_{n\to\infty}f(y_n)=\lim_{n\to\infty}f(g(x_n))=L_1, $$ and so the sequential criterion implies $L_2$ exists and $L_2=L_1$.

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  • You're right --- that's not quite what I'm after. For one thing, it's not a condition that most calc students could test. :( But I agree that it's a decent starting point -- thanks. – John Hughes Aug 21 '17 at 19:58