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I've a deck with 52 french cards ($13$ values for each of $4$ suits) and $4$ players. Randomly dealing out all cards, what's the probability that at least $2$ people will not receive any ace?

My try:

$$p=\frac{\frac{4!}{2!}\binom{48}{13,13,12,10}+\binom{4}{2}\binom{48}{13,13,11,11}+\frac{4!}{3!}\binom{48}{13,13,13,9}}{\binom{52}{13,13,13,13}}$$

Where:

$\binom{48}{13,13,13,9}$ is the case $A$ has all $4$ aces,

$\binom{48}{13,13,12,10}$ the case $A$ has $1$ ace $B$ has $3$ aces,

$\binom{48}{13,13,11,11}$ the $A$ has $2$ aces and same for $B$,

$\frac{4!}{2!}$ arrangements of $4$ people to be $A$ and $B$,

$\binom{4}{2}$ combination of $4$ people to be $A$ and $B$,

$\frac{4!}{3!}$ arrangements of $4$ people to be $A$

Am I right? If yes, is there a more elegant solution than mine?

Spaggy
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    What are French cards? How many people are involved? Do you deal out all the cards? – lulu Jul 29 '17 at 14:39
  • @lulu I edited the post – Spaggy Jul 29 '17 at 14:46
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    Got it. I'd go by inclusion-exclusion. Easy to get the probability that a given pair of players get no aces. Now multiply that by the number of pairs. Then subtract the cases where three players get no ace. – lulu Jul 29 '17 at 14:47
  • You can simplify by considering only the distribution of aces. How the other cards go doesn't matter. – true blue anil Jul 29 '17 at 17:14
  • @trueblueanil Are you saying I'm right? Simplify is for make the solution more elegant? – Spaggy Jul 30 '17 at 01:27
  • @Dear An: I am sorry, I was not available for a prompt reply for your query. Your answer is not correct, but I am posting a simpler answer, without using inclusion-exclusion. Whether it is elegant or not is for you to see. – true blue anil Jul 30 '17 at 20:36

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We will use a version of the Principle of Inclusion and Exclusion (PIE).

What is the probability that some two of the players have no aces? There are $\binom{4}{2}$ ways to pick the two players, so the total probability is $$S_2 = \binom{4}{2} \frac{\binom{48}{26}} {\binom{52}{26}}$$ We have over-counted cases where three of the players have no aces, but hang on, we will compensate in a minute.

What is the probability that some three of the players have no aces? There are $\binom{4}{3}$ ways to pick the three players, so the total probability is $$S_3 = \binom{4}{3} \frac{\binom{48}{39}} {\binom{52}{39}}$$

The question is, how to compensate for the over-counting in $S_2$? If there are actually three players who have no aces, the probability of this event has been counted three times in forming $S_2$. We want to count it only once, so we must compensate by subtracting it twice. Therefore the probability that at least two players have no aces is $$S_2 - 2 S_3 \approx \boxed{0.310204}$$

Note: The usual statement of PIE shows how we may compute the probability of at least one of $n$ events. But a modification of PIE allows us to compute the probability of at least $m$ events, and a simple case of that modified PIE has been applied above. A full discussion may be found in Feller, An Introduction to Probability Theory and Its Applications, Third Edition, section IV.5(a), "The Realization of at Least $m$ Events".

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  • Do you want to use 39 instead of 35 in calculating $S_3$? – user84413 Jul 29 '17 at 19:41
  • @user84413 Yes, thanks, I made a mistake copying from my notes. I'll edit my solution. – awkward Jul 29 '17 at 20:10
  • What I'm trying to understand is what are the solutions for S_2? ${A,B},{A,C},{A,D},{B,C},{B,D},{C,D}$, right?these are the couples who don't have aces. But these solutions are just in the case each of other two players have $2$ aces. There's no the case where just one players has all aces or the case where one player has $1$ ace and the other one has $3$ aces. So I need to add solution cause of the logical operator OR, right? – Spaggy Jul 30 '17 at 01:36
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    @DearAn $S_2$ includes ${A,B}$, where neither $A$ nor $B$ have an ace. But in this case $C$ and $D$ might both have aces, or just one of them might have all the aces. If $D$ has all the aces, then we have an overlap with the cases ${A,C}$ and ${B,C}$. That is why we apply the principle of inclusion / exclusion to compensate. – awkward Jul 30 '17 at 13:10
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    @awkward: Pl. check if there is a typo in your answer and whether it should be $\approx 0.310204$ – true blue anil Jul 30 '17 at 20:40
  • @trueblueanil yes, it is. Solution is $0.310204$ – Spaggy Jul 31 '17 at 13:59
  • @trueblueanil Yes, I'm sorry, I made yet another mistake copying numbers off my notes. I will correct my solution. – awkward Jul 31 '17 at 23:10
  • @awkward: No sweat. It happens to me, too ! (+1) – true blue anil Aug 01 '17 at 02:41
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With reference with my last comment against your question.

Imagine $4$ labelled rooms, each with $13$ labelled beds, to be occupied by $4$ travellers (aces)

As you have found, either $4$ are in one room, or $3-1 \;or\; 2-2$ in two rooms to satisfy the question's constraints

$Pr = \dfrac{4\binom{13}4 + (4\cdot3)\binom{13}3\binom{13}1 + \binom42\binom{13}2\binom{13}{2}}{\binom{52}4} = \dfrac{76}{245},\; \approx0.310204 $

Note that inclusion-exclusion has not been resorted to.

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There are $\binom42$ ways to choose two of the people who have 26 available "slots" between them.

Consider only the distribution of aces, where the rest of the cards go doesn't matter.

The probability that all the aces fall in one or other of the 26 slots of the chosen two is

$\binom42\cdot \frac{26}{52}\cdot\frac{25}{51}\cdot\frac{24} {50}\cdot\frac{23}{49}$

There are $3$ groups of two containing A, say, viz. AB, AC and AD, so cases where A has all the aces have been counted three times, and similarly for the others, so to correct for this, subtract

$2\cdot4 \cdot \frac{13}{52}\cdot\frac{12}{51}\cdot\frac{11}{50}\cdot\frac{10}{49}$

The final answer comes out as $\frac{76}{245}$

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Let $S(i)$ to be the deals where player $i$ does not have an ace. Letting $$ N(j)=\sum_{|A|=j}\left|\,\bigcap_{i\in A} S(i)\,\right|\tag{1} $$ we get $$ \begin{align} N(0)&=\binom{4}{0}\binom{52}{13}\binom{39}{13}\binom{26}{13}\binom{13}{13}=53644737765488792839237440000\\ N(1)&=\binom{4}{1}\color{#C00}{\binom{48}{13}}\binom{39}{13}\binom{26}{13}\binom{13}{13}=\frac{25308}{20825}\,N(0)\\ N(2)&=\binom{4}{2}\color{#C00}{\binom{48}{13}\binom{35}{13}}\binom{26}{13}\binom{13}{13}=\frac{6900}{20825}\,N(0)\\ N(3)&=\binom{4}{3}\color{#C00}{\binom{48}{13}\binom{35}{13}\binom{22}{13}}\binom{13}{13}=\frac{220}{20825}\,N(0)\\ N(4)&=\binom{4}{4}\color{#C00}{\binom{48}{13}\binom{35}{13}\binom{22}{13}\binom{9}{13}}=0 \end{align} $$ where the $4$ aces are removed from the counting in the red binomial factors. The leading binomial factors count the rearrangements of the following black and red factors.

Then, using the Generalized Inclusion-Exclusion Principle, we have:

The probability of a deal where everyone has an ace is $$ P(0)=\frac{\binom{0}{0}N(0)-\binom{1}{0}N(1)+\binom{2}{0}N(2)-\binom{3}{0}N(3)+\binom{4}{0}N(4)}{N(0)}=\frac{2197}{20825} $$ The probability of a deal where exactly $1$ person doesn't have an ace is $$ P(1)=\frac{\binom{1}{1}N(1)-\binom{2}{1}N(2)+\binom{3}{1}N(3)-\binom{4}{1}N(4)}{N(0)}=\frac{12168}{20825} $$ The probability of a deal where exactly $2$ people don't have an ace is $$ P(2)=\frac{\binom{2}{2}N(2)-\binom{3}{2}N(3)+\binom{4}{2}N(4)}{N(0)}=\frac{1248}{4165} $$ The probability of a deal where exactly $3$ people don't have an ace is $$ P(3)=\frac{\binom{3}{3}N(3)-\binom{4}{3}N(4)}{N(0)}=\frac{44}{4165} $$ The probability of a deal where exactly $4$ people don't have an ace is $$ P(4)=\frac{\binom{4}{4}N(4)}{N(0)}=0 $$ The probability of a deal where at least $2$ people don't have an ace is $$ P(2)+P(3)+P(4)=\frac{76}{245} $$

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