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I will first begin with the question.

What if there are more than just plus and minus basics signs.

What if complex number i is just number with other sign?

If we represent multiplying - to - in turns, and think of minus as turn in opposite direction, we'll get this

Then if we draw complex plane, and assume that i is sign s and -i is sign ns, and assume that this sign is half turn, we'll get our usual complex number

Does it have any sense?

Bill Dubuque
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    You should at least try to write correctly in english, but more important: it would be nicer if you write using MathJaX, as usual in this site. And what you say seems to be just a rephrasing of the very same definition that we have for addition and substraction. – DonAntonio Jun 05 '17 at 11:06
  • it seems so bacouse it is. I rephrase our usual definition to show that there can be other signs – vadimuha Jun 05 '17 at 11:11
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    @va I can't see from where you see "other signs" ... – DonAntonio Jun 05 '17 at 11:53
  • I edited the title to be much more specific. Please edit it further as need be to accurately represent your question. – Bill Dubuque Jun 05 '17 at 20:19
  • You can invent as many signs as you like, and I would like to encourage you to do so with prolific prolixity. Whether other humans understand what you mean is another story, and not one I'm concerned with in the slightest. – The Short One Jun 05 '17 at 20:51
  • As you can see from your own pictures, you need more dimensions. what makes sense if you want more variables. – mick Mar 27 '24 at 23:38

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What if there are more than just plus and minus basics signs?

Various authors have attempted to construct new number systems with multiple "signs". For example, in my prior answer you will find some links to so-called PolySign numbers that were discussed frequently on sci.math. A quick introduction to PolySign numbers is given in Eitzen's paper linked there.

It turns out that PolySign numbers (and most similar constructions) are isomorphic to certain ring direct sums of $\Bbb R$ and $\Bbb C,\,$ as follows immediately from old results of Dedekind and Weierstrass classifying finite dimensional algebras over $\Bbb R$ without nilpotents. There you will also find links to other related classification results on algebras that play a key role on this and related matters.

Bill Dubuque
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  • +1 My mentor gave some attention to it and used variants of it. – mick Mar 27 '24 at 23:34
  • @Bill To further my own study, I would appreciate a list of some of the authors/constructions as per your answer. I had assumed that multiple "signs" would correlate to nonunique additive inverses or generalizations of addition such that it is not necessarily associative and have draft constructions on my site--some of which include the real line or complex plane, some of which don't-- but I have had difficulty finding similar examples in the literature. Relevant thread: https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/1328934/is-there-an-example-of-nonassociative-arithmetic-addition – bblohowiak Mar 30 '24 at 14:32
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Well, multiplying by $-1$ is already commonly interpreted as a half turn so multiplying by $i$ would be better interpreted as a quarter (half half) turn.

You could invent a new notation for complex numbers and denote $i$ by $1$ with a new sign. However, I don't think that it would achieve much.

In some contexts, e.g. electrical engineering, $j$ is sometimes used in place of $i$ since $i$ is reserved for current. I was introduced to $j$ first in school; it was two years later in university that I first encountered $i$ and for a while it seemed unfamiliar.

Such a move would probably not be popular as the current notation is pretty well agreed on. We already live with multiple notations for differentiation, having multiple notations for complex numbers would probably be seen as a move in the wrong direction.

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You have to ask "How do we abstract the idea of positive and negative numbers?" Notice that, if we let $\mathbf P$ be the set of positive integers and $\mathbf N$ be the set of negative integers, then we can partition the set of integers into the union $\mathbb Z = \mathbf P \cup \{0\} \cup \mathbf N$ of disjoint sets.

To continue with this idea, we need to introduce units. In an abelian ring $\mathbf R$, a unit is a member $x \in \mathbf R$ that has a multiplicative inverse.

In the ring of integers, $\mathbb Z$, the units are $1$ and $-1$. Note that $\mathbf P = 1\cdot \mathbf P$ and $\mathbf N = -1 \cdot \mathbf P$.

In the ring $\mathbb Z[i] = \{a+bi : a,b \in \mathbb Z \}$, of Gaussian integers the units are $1,-1, i$ and $-i$. We can partition the Gaussian integers into the union

$$\mathbb Z[i] = \{0\} \cup \mathbf Q_1 \cup \mathbf Q_2 \cup \mathbf Q_3 \cup \mathbf Q_4$$

of disjoint sets, where

$\mathbf Q_1 = \{a+bi : a > 0, b \ge 0 \}$

$\mathbf Q_2 = i \mathbf Q_1$

$\mathbf Q_3 = i^2 \mathbf Q_1$

$\mathbf Q_4 = i^3 \mathbf Q_1$