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Hello and happy New Year to the Stackexchange community. I had trouble solving this seemingly trivial problem and it would be great if you could help me out.

$$\lim_{n \to \infty}(1+\frac{1}{n})^{n}=e$$

This definition of e is given and I want to show that the following identitiy is true as well.

$$\lim_{n \to \infty} (1+\frac{1}{q_{n}})^{q_{n}} = e$$

with $q_{n}$ as a positive rational sequence which diverges to $+\infty$ (therefore, $\lim_{n \to \infty} q_{n}=+\infty$).


I figured that since

$$\lim_{n \to \infty} n = +\infty = \lim_{n \to \infty} q_{n}$$

I could move $\lim_{n \to \infty}$ inside the given expression, so that we have

$$\lim_{n \to \infty}(1+\frac{1}{q_{n}})^{q_{n}}=(1+\frac{1}{\lim_{n \to \infty} q_{n}})^{\lim_{n \to \infty}q_{n}} = (1+\frac{1}{\lim_{n \to \infty} n})^{\lim_{n \to \infty} n} = \lim_{n \to \infty}(1+\frac{1}{n})^{n}=e.$$

However, apperantly, I need to show that the sequence is continuous in order to do this and my course didn't introduce continuity yet. Of course, I could first prove the therom needed to move the limit inside the expression and then show the sequence is continous, but I feel like there is a much more easier and elegant solution to this.

I'm sorry if this is a duplicate of a previously answered question (at least I couldn't find one) and any insight would be appreciated. Thank you very much.


Update — I think I managed to solve it by brute force, but it took me hours and my proof is 2+ pages long. I'm sure that my proof was not the intended one and there must be a simpler one. Anyway, thank you for the help and when I have time, I will update this question with my solution as reference.

  • We don't say $e=2.718281828 \ldots$ as Euler constant, say Napier's constant. Euler constant is defined as: $$\lim_{n\to \infty} \left( 1+\frac{1}{2}+\ldots+\frac{1}{n}-\ln n\right)=0.57712566\ldots$$ – Ng Chung Tak Jan 02 '17 at 17:26
  • Oh! My mistake! I'll edit it in few minutes. –  Jan 02 '17 at 17:27
  • Although, Napier's Constant is commonly called Eulers Number. – knrumsey Jan 03 '17 at 01:06

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It is not much difficult to establish what you seek. The function $$f(x) = \left(1 + \frac{1}{x}\right)^{x}$$ for $x \in \mathbb{Q}^{+}$ is an increasing function. This is easy to prove via Bernoulli's inequality. Let $x, y$ be positive rationals with $x > y$ then we have $$\left(1 + \dfrac{1}{x}\right)^{x/y} \geq 1 + \frac{x}{y}\cdot\frac{1}{x} = 1 + \frac{1}{y}$$ so that $f(x) \geq f(y)$.

Let $q_{n}$ be a sequence of rationals tending to $\infty$ and let $s_{n} = \lfloor q_{n}\rfloor$ and $t_{n} = s_{n} + 1$. Clearly we can see that from a certain value of $n$ the sequences $s_{n}, t_{n}$ are made of positive integers only and both tend to $\infty$. Now we know that $f(n) \to e$ as $n \to \infty$ and hence $f(s_{n}), f(t_{n})$ both tend to $e$ as $n \to \infty$. Since $s_{n}\leq q_{n}\leq t_{n}$ it follows that $f(s_{n}) \leq f(q_{n})\leq f(t_{n})$ and by Squeeze theorem $f(q_{n}) \to e$ as $n \to \infty$.


Note: The above proof requires the version of Bernoulli's inequality with rational exponents.

  • Hey, thank you for the answer! Your solution seems to be the one I was looking for, but right now I don't have the time to check. I will give you best answer late when I tried and confirmed it myself. Anyway, thank you very much. –  Jan 07 '17 at 18:09
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I suggest a way(not the only way) here. First you can treat $\lim_{n \to \infty}(1+\frac{1}{n})^{n}=e$ as a limit of a function $f:\Bbb R\to\Bbb R$, rather than a sequence, to infinity. So you may write $\lim_{x \to \infty}(1+\frac{1}{x})^{x}=e$ instead.

Then, if you have admit that $\lim_{x \to \infty}(1+\frac{1}{x})^{x}=e$ to be true, then you can directly use the famous theorem, Sequential Characterization of Limits(in particular, the version that related to limits as $x$ goes to $\infty$, if you don't know, just google it!). Then you can instantly get that $\lim_{n \to \infty} (1+\frac{1}{q_{n}})^{q_{n}} = e$ for all rational sequence $q_n$ that diverges to $\infty$.

PS: I'm afraid that if you are only allowable to admit $\lim_{n \to \infty}(1+\frac{1}{n})^{n}=e$ but not $\lim_{x \to \infty}(1+\frac{1}{x})^{x}=e$, then your claim can not be proved, though I'm not sure about this.

Eric
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  • At the end, I used a different method. I'm still not satisfied with my proof, but still thank you for the help :) . –  Jan 03 '17 at 00:54
  • You assume a statement without a proof and then deduce the requested one. That does not make sense. – miracle173 Jan 04 '17 at 11:54
  • @miracle173 I have said that "if we admit $\lim_{x \to \infty}(1+\frac{1}{x})^{x}=e$ ..." And this very statement implies the requested one, but the reason why the implication hold is not trivial. It's by the Sequential Characterization of Limits. There're two points we need to clarify, one is $\lim_{x \to \infty}(1+\frac{1}{x})^{x}=e$, another is how the implication that I mentioned hold; none of these two arguments is necessarily apparent or easy then the other. – Eric Jan 04 '17 at 15:11
  • Hence I clarify the latter, and left the former to the reader(it is entirely usually seen in any textbook). And at the end, I said that I'm afraid if we avoid admitting the former, then it seems no way to prove what the OP want. – Eric Jan 04 '17 at 15:13