In what base does "100" equal "4 in base 10"

Question

I was reading this answer to an amusing comic related question: https://math.stackexchange.com/a/166891/35132 and I understand that in the linked answer, the examples of how four may be expressed used base (expressed in decimal!!) is 10, 4, 3 for 4, 10, 11.

What I can't figure out is what base would need to be used for his last example (100) to equal 4 in decimal?

P.S. Are maths questions like this always this hard to put in words?!

For the PS: Yes. People who don't use very specific types of math on a regular basis don't have any need to distinguish between a number and a semantic representation of a number. They are capable of using the concept of "place value" and a base ten system to perform operations on numbers but don't tend to philosophize about it. The language for talking about math developed when this distinction was not well-understood and is primarily used by people who (for legitimate reasons) don't care about it. As a result, it's hard to ask questions like yours in natural language. — , Jul 05 '12 at 15:29
@countinghaus Interesting. So is there a better "language" or way of talking about maths? — Grezzo, Jul 05 '12 at 16:34
I should have said "syntactic" and not "semantic" in that comment. And, hmm, I guess no, except you strive to be really precise. If there's any risk that you'll be confusing when you're talking about multiple bases (and there usually is!), you should say things like "the number denoted one zero zero in base seven" or "the number which is called fourteen in english." — , Jul 05 '12 at 18:14
Note that the answer holds for "base 10" in all bases N>4. So if by "base 10" you mean base S(S(S(S(S(0))))) (where S is the successor operator ("plus one")), you're okay. You don't have to mean ten. — Rex Kerr, Jul 05 '12 at 18:18

score 6 · Answer 1 · edited Jul 05 '12 at 15:40

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$$100_{(b)}=b^2+0\cdot b + 0=b^2 \,.$$

So 100 in base $b$ is just the number $b^2$.... Can you find $b$ now?

edited Jul 05 '12 at 15:40

hmakholm left over Monica

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answered Jul 05 '12 at 15:24

N. S.

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What does "in base 10" mean here? – hmakholm left over Monica Jul 05 '12 at 15:34
Yup I should had said the number $b^2$... – N. S. Jul 05 '12 at 15:36
Like this? ${}{}$ – hmakholm left over Monica Jul 05 '12 at 15:41
Thankyou, upvoted for your help, but I marked pritram as the answer because he was first and he actually gave me the answer with workings, not just the means to get to the answer myself – Grezzo Jul 05 '12 at 16:31
^that is a rather absurd line of reasoning. – The Chaz 2.0 Feb 23 '16 at 17:44

score 3 · Accepted Answer · edited Jul 05 '12 at 16:06

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Let the required base be $b$. Then, $$1 \cdot b^2 + 0 \cdot b^1 + 0 \cdot b^0 = 4 \implies b = 2.$$

edited Jul 05 '12 at 16:06

Ilmari Karonen

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answered Jul 05 '12 at 15:23

pritam

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In what base does "100" equal "4 in base 10"

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