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I want to show $5^{1/3}$ is not in the field $\mathbb{Q}(2^{1/3})$. My reasoning was $[\mathbb{Q}(2^{1/3}):\mathbb{Q}]=3$ and $[\mathbb{Q}(5^{1/3}):\mathbb{Q}]=3$. Similarly we know that $[\mathbb{Q}(2^{1/3}, 5^{1/3}):\mathbb{Q}]=9$ so by multiplicativity of dimensions, $[\mathbb{Q}(5^{1/3}):\mathbb{Q(2^{1/3})}]=3$ which implies that $5^{1/3} \not\in \mathbb{Q}(2^{1/3})$. Is this the right approach?

Eric Wofsey
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What you wrote works as an outline, but I think your claims about the degree of each field extension would need explanation.


For $[\mathbb{Q}(2^{1/3}):\mathbb{Q}]$ and $[\mathbb{Q}(5^{1/3}):\mathbb{Q}]$ you need to show that the irreducible polynomials of $2^{1/3}$ and $5^{1/3}$ over $\Bbb Q$ have degree 3.

(Since you know that $2^{1/3}$ is a root of $x^3-2 \in \Bbb Q[x]$, you just need to explain why $x^3-2$ is irreducible over $\Bbb Q$. You can use Eisenstein's criterion. Same for $5^{1/3}$.)


The more difficult part is explaining why $[\mathbb{Q}(2^{1/3}, 5^{1/3}):\mathbb{Q}]=9$.

I think I'd write the extensions in a different way and then use the multiplicative property of the degree:

$\Bbb Q \subseteq \Bbb Q(2^{1/3}) \subseteq [\Bbb Q(2^{1/3})](5^{1/3})=\mathbb{Q}(2^{1/3}, 5^{1/3})$, so the problem becomes showing that $5^{1/3}$ has degree $3$ over $\Bbb Q(2^{1/3})$.

$[\Bbb Q(2^{1/3}):\Bbb Q]=3$, so $\Bbb Q(2^{1/3})$ has a basis of three elements: $1, 2^{1/3}$ and $2^{2/3}$.

You can use this to show that $5^{1/3}$ is not an element of $\Bbb Q(2^{1/3})$: you could try writing it as a linear combination of the basis elements with coefficients in $\Bbb Q$ and deriving a contradiction. (This might be long and tedious.)

coldnumber
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  • Thanks for explaining! Yeah, i will write more details next time. –  Aug 08 '15 at 01:16
  • You're welcome :) – coldnumber Aug 08 '15 at 01:16
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    While I think degrees of field extensions could be helpful for the OP question, I note that your last two paragraphs stand completely on their own as a proof strategy, without needing any of the stuff above it. – Greg Martin Aug 08 '15 at 01:22
  • @GregMartin interesting... I guess I was more trying to show how I thought each of the claims OP made could be justified than to write a nice cohesive proof :P. I think from the first part it's still necessary to explain the degree of $2^{1/3}$ over $\Bbb Q$ using the irreducible polynomial, no? Explaining that part shows an awareness of Eisenstein. – coldnumber Aug 08 '15 at 01:31
  • It's true that one needs to justify why ${1,2^{1/3},2^{2/3}}$ is a $\Bbb Q$-basis for $\Bbb Q(2^{1/3})$. Although for extensions generated by a root of an integer, that's pretty easy to see by hand. – Greg Martin Aug 08 '15 at 05:57
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In general, if $p$ and $q$ are two different primes and $k>1$, $p^{1/k}\not\in\mathbb{Q}(q^{1/k})$.

Assuming the opposite, for any sufficiently big prime number $r\equiv 1\pmod{k}$, with $q$ being a $k$-th residue $\pmod{r}$, $p$ would be a $k$-th residue, too, but we may provide counter-examples to that situation through the Chinese theorem.

Jack D'Aurizio
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