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Meredith Watts, police chief of Shorewood, knows that the probability of any assault that occurs in the city being reported to the police is .5. If an assault is reported, the probability that someone will be arrested is .6. If someone is arrested, the probability of a conviction is .9. If a person is convicted of assault the probability of actually serving jail time is .7. Given that an assault occurs, what is the probability of a person serving jail time for the crime?


I knew that by the question stating "given" that an assault occurs that I need to use the rule of conditional probability. I know the formula for that is $Pr(A |B) = Pr (A \cap B)/Pr(B)$.

So I thought the best way to get started would be to use a probability tree, but I have never done that before and I am not exactly sure how to get started.

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    Welcome to Mathematics! It is customary to, when asking questions like this, to also provide what you've done so far, what your thoughts are on the approach, and so forth. – Ken May 15 '15 at 17:12
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    I don't know where to begin. I knew that by the question stating "given" that an assault occurs that I need to use the rule of conditional probability. I know the formula for that is Pr(A |B) = Pr (A ∩ B)/Pr(B) – user240851 May 15 '15 at 18:48
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    So I thought the best way to get started would be to use a probability tree, but I have never done that before and I am not exactly sure how to get started. – user240851 May 15 '15 at 18:49

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Hint:

Let (symbol) denote the event of (event)

As - Assault

R - Report

A - Arrested

C - Conviction

S - Serving

We know ( Note that | means given)

P(R|As) = 0.5

P(A|R) = 0.6

P(C|A) = 0.9

P(S|C) = 0.7

and

We want to know:

P(S|As) = ?

Before computing this mathematically, through conditional probability, let us think about this intuitively using probability tree diagrams.

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anything with "^c" means complement as in the event did not occur e.g. R^c ($R^c$) means that the assault was not reported.

It seems that the only way to arrive at S from As is through R, A, C and S. This is correct as unreported assaults do not result in arrests, not being arrested cannot result in a conviction and not being convicted means not serving.

When going through the probability tree this way, we multiply the probabilities (eg the probability of getting double 6's when rolling a pair of fair dice is (1/6)*(1/6) = 1/36).

Thus, the answer would be 0.5*0.6*0.9*0.7, but how do we state this formally? More importantly, why does going through the probability tree in such a way call for multiplication?


Let us note that if we serve a sentence, it follows that we have been convicted.

If we were given that a conviction happened and were asked to compute the probability for a sentence, the answer would be 0.7, and we are done.

Is being convicted given? No. Go up the tree.

Being convicted means we were arrested.

Is being arrested given? No. Go up the tree.

Being arrested means we were reported. Given? No. Up.

Being reported means we committed an assault. This one is given.

Oh also, note that $S = R \cap A \cap C \cap S$, that is the event S is equal to the events R, A, C and S all happening together since there is no way someone can be sentenced if they are not first convicted, arrested, reported and are guilty of assault.

Recall we noted earlier: It seems that the only way to arrive at S from As is through R, A, C and S. This is correct as unreported assaults do not result in arrests, not being arrested cannot result in a conviction and not being convicted means not serving.

Thus, $P(S | As) = P(R \cap A \cap C \cap S | As)$.

By definition of conditional probability, we have

$P(R \cap A \cap C \cap S | As) = \frac{P(R \cap A \cap C \cap S \cap As)}{P(As)}$.

If we could say that the events R, A, C, S and As are independent, then we would have $\frac{P(R \cap A \cap C \cap S \cap As)}{P(As)} = \frac{P(R)P(A)P(C)P(S)P(As)}{P(As)}$.

Unfortunately, they are not independent, I think. If not, there is a rule here we can use called the chain rule of probability.

We compute $P(R \cap A \cap C \cap S \cap As)$ as follows:

$P(R \cap A \cap C \cap S \cap As) = P(S | C \cap A \cap R \cap As) P(C | A \cap R \cap As) P(A | R \cap As) P(R|As) P(As)$

Hey look something we know, P(R|As) = 0.5.

What about the others?

We could use the extremely long and tedious process of doing things like:

$P(A | R \cap As) = \frac{P(A \cap R \cap As)}{P(R \cap As)}$

or we could take note of the fact that

$R \cap As = R$

$A \cap R \cap As = A$

$C \cap A \cap R \cap As = C$

This is true by similar reasoning to $S = R \cap A \cap C \cap S$.

Thus, we have

$P(R \cap A \cap C \cap S \cap As) = P(S|C) P(C|A) P(A|R) P(R|As) P(As)$

Hey wait, we don't know P(As). All we know is that it happened.

That's okay, we don't want to compute $P(R \cap A \cap C \cap S \cap As)$. We instead want to compute

$P(R \cap A \cap C \cap S | As) = \frac{P(R \cap A \cap C \cap S \cap As)}{P(As)} = \frac{P(S|C) P(C|A) P(A|R) P(R|As) P(As)}{P(As)}$.


Alternatively, you can write $P(R \cap A \cap C \cap S \cap As| As)$ and then note that $P(As | As) = 1$.


To understand chain rule of probability more, you may want to check out The Birthday Problem. It's a popular probability problem.

BCLC
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    Actually the hardest part is to show why multiplication is needed, and I admit i cannot do it. – Mythomorphic May 15 '15 at 18:01
  • @hkmather802 Satisfied? – BCLC May 15 '15 at 18:29
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    Bravo! Maybe the OP should have a look of this explanation:) – Mythomorphic May 15 '15 at 18:32
  • @hkmather802 Thanks. I did notify OP here as well http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/1283804/probability-question-police-numbers/1283848#comment2606780_1283828 – BCLC May 15 '15 at 18:41
  • That's a whole lot of effort invested in answering someone who hasn't shown any one small bit of effort attempting to solve the question on their own. – barak manos May 15 '15 at 18:43
  • @barakmanos "I struggle with this and I knew that I needed to do a probability tree to explain how I arrived at some numbers but explaining it through conditional probability has been difficult for me. – user240851 20 mins ago" ? – BCLC May 15 '15 at 18:44
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    I appreciate the effort very much. It is my first time in posting on here so I did not realize that I needed to type what I had tried, but I admit... I don't really understand what to do and was just looking for some guidance. I have never taken a class like this and math is my nemesis. I think the person who helped me is brilliant. I wish my mind worked that way. – user240851 May 15 '15 at 18:45
  • Thanks dear OP @user240851 though I did struggle with probability when I first took it back in 2011. I got used to it eventually, and you can too. I invite you to check out these links http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/j/joshuawait536461.html http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/11267/what-are-some-interpretations-of-von-neumanns-quote https://www.khanacademy.org/about/blog/post/95208400815/the-learning-myth-why-ill-never-tell-my-son-hes – BCLC May 15 '15 at 18:50
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    @BCLC Thank you so much! Genuinely. I appreciate your help and for not being judgmental. I hope you have a great day! – user240851 May 15 '15 at 18:52
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Required probability

$=(0.5)(0.6)(0.9)(0.7)$

$=0.189$

Mythomorphic
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    Since OP did not include any original thoughts, you should consider explaining this answer so that s/he understands how to go about such problems in the future. – A. Thomas Yerger May 15 '15 at 17:30
  • I myself got that answer but have difficulty explaining it mathematically particularly through conditional probability or, if needed, Bayes' Theorem. – BCLC May 15 '15 at 17:40
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    Thank you for your help everyone. I struggle with this and I knew that I needed to do a probability tree to explain how I arrived at some numbers but explaining it through conditional probability has been difficult for me. – user240851 May 15 '15 at 18:24
  • @user240851 Satisfied with my answer? – BCLC May 15 '15 at 18:31
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    @BCLC yes you're answer is fantastic. I think you are brilliant. Thank you for taking time to walk me through it. IT will be very helpful! – user240851 May 15 '15 at 18:51