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There are some apps that come with the OS on a Mac and which I've never used even once in years. Apps like "Grapher" or "Stocks".

Now my disk is almost full and I'm trying to remove these unused apps to free up a bit of space, but no matter what I try I am unable to uninstall them. When I drag the Stocks app to the trash, for example, the operation is refused and I get a message saying

“Stocks.app” can’t be modified or deleted because it’s required by macOS.

The same is true for Grapher.app, Books.app and others.

Now why would a stock app be required be the OS? That doesn't really make sense to me.

So is it possible to get rid of these apps that I never use?

I've been reading about the System Integrity Protection stuff, but I don't understand why removing an app I never use is a danger to my system integrity…

Would my system still work if I managed to uninstall Stocks.app?

nohillside
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Shawn
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    Which version of macOS are you running? PS: Stocks uses 4MB, Graphes uses 13.3MB. – nohillside Oct 01 '21 at 14:16
  • Best option is to look at your own data and consider backup… – Solar Mike Oct 01 '21 at 16:31
  • As others have said, there are plenty of solutions out there to clean up my own files. This question is specifically about cleaning up these pesky system apps that I don't want. – Shawn Oct 02 '21 at 19:52
  • To repeat my comment: which version of macOS are you running? – nohillside Oct 02 '21 at 20:03
  • Sorry @nohillside. I am running MacOS Mojave Version 10.14.6, but I'll willing to upgrade if it helps, although I don't think I necessarily have enough space for an upgrade at the moment… – Shawn Oct 03 '21 at 22:22
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    On Mojave you can remove the applications you don‘t want by booting into recovery. It won‘t get you enough disk space to upgrade (or improve your disk situation in general). Get an external drive and put part of your files there (don‘t forget to backup the external drive as well). – nohillside Oct 04 '21 at 05:26
  • So I just boot in recovery mode and drag the apps to the trash normally? – Shawn Oct 04 '21 at 16:38
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    You'll have to use Terminal, there are Q&A on the site explaining this is detail. Would be surprised if it solves your disk space problem though, we are talking a handful of Megabytes here. – nohillside Oct 04 '21 at 17:51
  • @nohillside Do you mean something like the "Get rid of default Mac apps" section on this page? https://setapp.com/how-to/completely-uninstall-annoying-macos-apps – Shawn Oct 05 '21 at 18:44

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Short version: you can't delete them (without some hackery), and even if you could, it wouldn't help you.

On modern macOS systems (since Big Sur, maybe even Catalina?; can't remember) the system is divided into a read-only partition with all the system/OS stuff, and a writeable partition where all your file live (plus any additional disks you may have). MacOS "overlays" the things from the read-only partition into your directory tree (as seen from Finder; from the shell or apps point-of-view, it's clearly divided).

Apple-provided apps are on the read-only partition. So even though they appear in /Applications in Finder (and some apps), in reality, they're in /System/Applications. Deleting them would require you to remount the read-only partition (which you can only do in Recovery Mode, as far as I know). But even then, it wouldn't help you with your space problem as the size of the read-only partition does not change, thus you would not get any additional free space on your main partition by deleting the system-provided apps.

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  • On Big Sur, removing things from /System without re-calculating all the checksums will render the systen un-bootable. And you would need to do this after each update. – nohillside Oct 01 '21 at 14:59
  • @nohillside: Did not know about this, thanks. Even stronger reason not to fiddle with the OS partition. – DarkDust Oct 01 '21 at 15:01
  • Thanks for the explanation. It does seem really strange though. Am I the only guy in the world that doesn't need a Stock app on my laptop? – Shawn Oct 01 '21 at 16:09
  • @shawn modern OS include tons of stuff you‘ll never need. Would loose any thoughts about a few MBs. – nohillside Oct 01 '21 at 17:08
  • @nohillside is there any of it I can get rid of? can you point me to some bigger wins? – Shawn Oct 01 '21 at 17:23
  • @shawn there are several questions with answers about how to find big files and cleanup your disk. Assuming you are using Big Sur you basically only can change the size of your User directory. – nohillside Oct 01 '21 at 19:03
  • @nohillside I meant are there ways to get the system itself to take up less space, but I guess I'm just expecting too much out of a Mac… – Shawn Oct 02 '21 at 19:09
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As @nohillside mentioned those apps don't really use a lot of space, may I instead suggest two options :

  1. Use "cleaning apps" like. CleanMyMac or others
  2. Use iCloud Drive and integrated tools to manage your files
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