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My iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, 2014) has a permanent internal 120GB drive on the main board and I just added a 2TB SSD internal drive as well.

I'm essentially starting over with a clean system.

I'm wondering what is the best setup for these two drives? By best I guess I mean 'safest'. I just went through having a dead fusion fusion drive and losing data so I'd like to be careful and smart about how I set this up.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

TKK
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    RE: "By best I guess I mean 'safest'. I just went through having a dead fusion fusion drive and losing data so I'd like to be careful and smart about how I set this up." -- The best would be to keep your data backed up! You could use Time Machine for that. – user3439894 Jul 23 '20 at 18:13
  • The iMac Retina 5K, 27-inch, Late 2014 specs shows: Storage 1 or 3 TB Fusion Drive, or 256, 512, or 1 TB flash storage -- So what is this 120GB drive? – user3439894 Jul 23 '20 at 18:23
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    It isn't on the specs, I don't know why. It is an internal Apple SSD. I had that 3TB drive and it died. The guy installing this new drive told me about the other internal drive and sure enough, there it is. I put an OS on it and it boots. The other drive is an external samsung and I just made it one big 2TB partition, which I can see when I boot. – TKK Jul 23 '20 at 18:37
  • Okay, a little more investigating tells me the iMac 2014 Fusion Drive consisted of a 1TB or 3TB HDD and 128GB Flash storage on the system system board. Is the 2TB SSD new or used, and if used how old? – user3439894 Jul 23 '20 at 18:50
  • Brand new. It's a samsung V-NAND 860 EVO SATA SSD Drive. – TKK Jul 23 '20 at 19:30
  • Other the doing some benchmark speed test on the two, I'd probably opt to use the 2TB SSD as is not 6 years old like the on board Flash storage. Maybe just use the on board Flash storage for temporary work space. – user3439894 Jul 23 '20 at 19:40
  • Ok that's what I was thinking as well. So boot from the 2T drive, leave my home folder there etc. I think the new drive is faster anyway. Thank you. – TKK Jul 23 '20 at 19:53
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    The failure here was not having a backup. Put them both back into a Fusion drive setup, you will have 2.12TB of HDD space. Next, get a 4TB hard drive and make a Time Machine backup. – Allan Jul 23 '20 at 21:06
  • I wondered if the 120GB SSD was really the part of the old Fusion drive. A Fusion drive is really an SSD + HD joined together as a logical volume. They can actually be split (or re-joined). – Tim Campbell Jul 23 '20 at 21:37
  • @TimCampbell It was created when SSDs were much more expensive. It created a single drive out of a small 128GB PCIe SATA with an inexpensive 7200RPM 3.5" SATA drive. See this answer re: splitting/unsplitting – Allan Jul 23 '20 at 21:59
  • To be clear, the old 3T drive that I had in the system is now sitting on my desk. So the internal 120GB may have been part of a logical volume or something but now it's just a drive called 'small'. Any recommendations on which drive to use for a time machine backup? I have had a few Time Capsules which all died on me. – TKK Jul 24 '20 at 13:07

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Format your SSD as APFS and use it as your boot drive. That will make a noticeable speed improvement over using a magnetic disk. APFS is optimized for SSDs and runs poorly on spinning platters, so format your 120GB drive as HFS+.

Your 120 GB drive is nearly worthless at this point. Maybe you could use a tool like Carbon Copy Cloner to keeps some important documents backed up to it, but really you should be using Time Machine. Maybe use the 120 GB drive for downloads or something.

As for what kind of drive to use for Time Machine, definitely get a 3.5" Hard Drive (best value), and I recommend getting bare drives plus a dock rather than drives in an enclosure, again because you get better value that way. Beyond that there are 2 schools of thought:

  1. As Apple did with Time Capsule, you buy a single rugged drive that is unlikely to fail. Get one designed for 24/7 server use with a 5 year warranty. Something like the Hiachi Western Digital Ultrastar.
  2. Buy 2 drives and alternate backups between them. Expect they will both fail at some point, just hopefully not at the same time. For this, buy ordinary internal drives. To help ensure they do not both fail at the same time, I recommend buying drives from 2 different manufacturers. 2 Drives also allows you to keep one off-site, which can be critical if your computer and backup drive are both stolen, destroyed in a fire, or suffer some other common catastrophe just due to being in the same place at the same time.

One thing to be careful about, especially with high capacity drives, are drives that use Shingled Magnetic Recording (SMR, DM-SMR). Long story, but those devices perform fine when used as Time Machine backups until Time Machine starts pruning old files, at which point they perform quite poorly. What is worse is that it can be hard to tell if a drive uses SMR because some manufacturers fail to disclose this. So I would stick with drives labeled for use as internal desktop drives (not RAID or NAS drives) unless you have assurance that the drive does not use SMR.

2 other sources for information about disk drives to consider

You can look for disk reliability data published by heavy commercial users. Backblaze publishes their report about every quarter. The Q1 2020 report is here. Any drive they have selected to test will be high enough performance, and you can judge for yourself the reliability, which Backblaze explains in great detail. I think some other companies publish similar reports.

You can also pick your favorite NAS or RAID system and stick with the list of certified compatible drives. Just make sure you select a system that is a high-performance system, not something touted as a cheap media server or something like that. As a random example, here is a link to the compatibility list for the Synology 220+. Being on a list like that would assure me that the drive will perform well enough for Time Machine.

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The built-in 120GB is part of the Fusion drive. A Fusion drive is a software solution where two physical disks are joined as one drive. If either disk fails you can lose all data. Sounds like your 3TB HDD experienced a fault which is not unusual after 6 years of life. The 120GB SSD is soldered to the system board so that cannot be replaced It is replaceable. Just on the backside of the main system board and not as easily accessible like the HDD. Fusion originally appeared using JHFS+ file system and CoreStorage containers to create the Fusion. When Apple announced it, I was able to implement Fusion on a Mac Pro 2010 by using the command line diskutil. With the new APFS and APFS Containers Fusion still works under Mojave and up.

Fusion is vulnerable to losing all data if either the SSD or HDD fails. Since you now have two SSD's it doesn't make sense to combine the two for the same reason.

Install macOS and everything else onto the new larger SSD that you installed. Here's a few ideas on how to use that 120GB Apple SSD. You should format the 120GB drive.

  • Keep the drive as a second disk use it for scratch space. Some applications can benefit from this such as Adobe Photoshop. Having a different disk on a different controller can improve performance while the main disk is busy.
  • Mount the drive to a folder in your Home folder to make it easily accessible. https://apple.stackexchange.com/a/291154/382818
  • I wouldn't trust that Apple SSD as it's 6 years old so don't put anything on it you don't mind losing if it suddenly decides to fail. SSD's have a limit on the number of writes and it's been running for 6 years under Fusion. Fusion puts the most frequently used files on the SSD so it likely that disk has been worked rather hard.
  • The Apple SSD can be replaced and there is the IFIXIT teardown for that model. The process is not too bad if you are adventurous. It is a PCIe drive not an NVMe drive.
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  • Are you sure the SSD is soldered in on a 2014 model? Isn't it the same 12+16-pin blade as used in other models of that era? – benwiggy Jul 25 '20 at 15:28
  • You are right, I fixed it. No, pun intended... No, wait, yes, the pun was intended. ;-) – James Brickley Jul 25 '20 at 16:33
  • @TKK "Not too bad" seems inaccurate. The ifixit.com guide for replacing the blade SSD asseses the job as difficult. See: https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/iMac+Intel+27-Inch+Retina+5K+Display+Blade+SSD+Replacement/30537 – DavidRecallsMonica Jul 25 '20 at 16:48