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I'm a MSc Theoretical Physics student from Italy, and I'll most likely graduate around the end of next year: for the Italian academic system, this means that I'll be ready to try to get into a PhD program (after 3 years of BSc and 2 of MSc).

I'm considering other countries' universities too, and since I spent a year of High School in the US I was looking for information about it. For what I understood, their post-secondary education system is college (4 years) for a BSc, then either Master or PhD (? years). Is this understanding correct? If so, do they have special rules for foreign students who already have a BSc and a MSc?

Mauro Giliberti
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In most fields, US PhDs can start right after a bachelor's degree. Some incoming US students will have masters degrees, either because they've been uncertain about their career path and or because they pursue a masters to get more experience to make their applications look better (especially if their undergraduate research experience is lacking).

Because US PhDs usually start right after a BS/BA, they are typically longer than the European variety; 5 years is common, though for some fields they can be much longer, up to 10 years.

Coming in with a European masters (or a US masters, for that matter), there is not typically anything that will allow you to complete the US PhD faster than normal. There might be cases where you can skip some coursework, but that will be handled on a case-by-case basis.

Funding can sometimes be more difficult for foreign students unless their own government provides support, since some funding sources are not available to international students (especially fellowships from the US government). Other funding is available to all (most TAs, sometimes with a more strict language requirement, many RAs and PAs; check with programs you want to apply to about their funding availability).

Many programs and universities will have information for potential incoming international graduate students, you should search the websites for individual schools/programs you are interested in. Some of this additional information will cover things like visa requirements (including funding) and language proficiency. An example from my own institution is here: https://grad.wisc.edu/international-students/

As far as PhDs as a job, I'm less familiar with Italy but have seen the German system explained often here: US PhDs are not jobs like German ones are. That said, almost all US PhD students (and especially in STEM) have some sort of funded position that includes a stipend, and typically this comes with tuition remission, so you take home a (modest) income to pay expenses, while not paying tuition. Other students are on fellowships or traineeships that specifically fund a students' education and include a stipend.

For some fields, these are usually Research Assistant positions, where you work on a research project for pay (sometimes this is the same as your PhD thesis, sometimes not - again, depends on field and circumstance), or Teaching Assistant positions, where you teach or help teach a course or two. Programs typically guarantee some sort of funding for X years; if you take longer, you could possibly find yourself without funding (the likelihood of this depends on the field; I don't know about theoretical physics but my educated guess would be that there are enough TA positions in physics that as long as you're willing to teach you'd find a TA spot). There are also cases where someone might do an unfunded/self-funded PhD - unless you (or your family) are independently wealthy I would strongly advise against this (you will find other Q&A here about it).

Bryan Krause
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    At the most you might shave off a year or the equivalent of a semester. That's pretty field-dependent though. – Azor Ahai -him- Aug 09 '20 at 17:29
  • @AzorAhai--hehim Agreed, and probably the only chance for that would be in a heavily coursework-dependent field and with directly overlapping prior courses. – Bryan Krause Aug 09 '20 at 17:53
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    Or perhaps continuing in the same department (although obviously not relevant for this OP). – Azor Ahai -him- Aug 09 '20 at 19:08
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    Thanks, this combined with @Anyon 's comment answer my question. You mentioned funding: is the PhD in the US not a paid job? In Italy they pay you (not much, but at least it's a positive income) – Mauro Giliberti Aug 09 '20 at 19:25
  • @MauroGiliberti Yes and no; I suspect in practice it's pretty similar, though; I've edited a bit more explanation to expand on that. – Bryan Krause Aug 09 '20 at 19:34