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I received a response about a manuscript I reviewed earlier, and the authors write about the reviewer (i.e., me) and his concerns. As a woman, I'm not so keen on this.

Obviously this isn't intentionally insulting or anything like that---it's a minor blip. Nevertheless, it's a bit irksome, and the feminist in me is thinking that's not right; it's a microaggression (one of the everyday reminders that you don't belong here).

I could simply ignore it, but...

Question: Should I simply ignore it if authors assume that I'm male in their response to my review of their article?

There's no issues inside the manuscript: they thank the reviewers without using pronouns.

I'm particularly interested in if an editor would typically just groan and consider me a troublemaker for saying anything. And probably not pass the message on to the authors anyway.

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As a reviewer, you are supposed to comment on academic value and scientific correctness of the manuscript.

As a woman, you feel unhappy about authors not guessing a correct pronoun for you and not using an appropriate gender-neutral pronoun.

It seems that the issue has nothing to do with the manuscript and hence you are not reacting with your reviewer hat on. You are considering your response based on your role as woman/feminist/activist — but not as a reviewer. You are not reviewing the paper, you are reviewing author's communicative behaviour.

As long as you make it clear that you are not commenting as as reviewer of a manuscript, I think you can make this remark to the editor.

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    On the one hand it's necessary to bring these issues up to improve the state of affairs. On the other hand it probably won't benefit anyone if the reviewees is criticised directly because either a) they aren't being chauvanist, just thoughtless b) they aren't being chauvanist, just English-as-second-language c) they are_ chauvanist so will just discount the reviewer's comment. I think that the best approach would be to address the response to the editor alone, and ask it as a question of some sort - "I notice that said 'his' - do you think that that is just their idiom?" – WillC Nov 04 '18 at 08:59
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    Interesting answer - could you add an example text how one could formulate this ? – Falco Nov 06 '18 at 10:15
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    @Falco I could, however (1) I think it's best not to amend my answer to preserve consistency, and (2) it was OP's idea to write a message and OP is really the best person to write her messages as she knows all the specific details of her situation and I don't. – Dmitry Savostyanov Nov 08 '18 at 08:31
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    I disagree slightly. I view the problem as one of professionalism, not feminism. (However, I agree with the different 'reviewer' versus 'prompts about professional etiquette' hat). The OP's question includes as a woman for gentle informative value for the reader. In your answer, it does not have the same flavour (just an observaton). –  Nov 10 '18 at 00:03
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    @Araucaria Would your feeling about the flavour as a woman in my text be the same if my name were feminine? – Dmitry Savostyanov Nov 10 '18 at 08:35
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    @DmitrySavostyanov More or less. I believe your answer post would be much better if you removed the part reading "you feel unhappy about authors not guessing a correct pronoun for you", it makes it sound as if you think the OP is being unreasonable by objecting to them using a gendered pronoun. Also it's a misattribution. The OP cannot be said to have objected to the authors' "guessing the wrong ponoun". It doesn't say or imply that anywhere in their post. –  Nov 13 '18 at 16:09
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    @Araucaria OP explicitly writes as a woman, I am not so keen on this. Obviously, OP is not content with the fact and considers to take an action, like writing to the editor. How is it a misattribution? – Dmitry Savostyanov Nov 13 '18 at 18:40
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    @DmitrySavostyanov Well, it's because if the authors had to guess the sex of the reviewer and guessed wrong, it wouldn't be an issue. But in a situation where they were being blind reviewed they shouldn't have assumed/guessed the sex of the reviewer (or used a gendered pronoun when knowingly not sure) . Here in a completely different environment, those unfamiliar with Guardian crosswords often assume I'm a woman. That's a 'guess' caused by my name - no problem. If I'm a blind reviewer and somone "guesses" I'm a bloke when they don't know my gender, that's a different kettle of fish. –  Nov 13 '18 at 19:28
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    @Araucaria That's exactly what my answer says: As a woman, you feel unhappy about authors ... not using an appropriate gender-neutral pronoun, if you read the sentence in full. What is the misattribution? – Dmitry Savostyanov Nov 13 '18 at 19:40
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    @DmitrySavostyanov It's the bit you missed out "you feel unhappy about authors not guessing a correct pronoun for you" <-- That's the problematic bit. It implies that getting a guess wrong is the issue (which trivialises the OP's concerns). –  Nov 13 '18 at 19:42
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    @Araucaria It's only problematic because you selectively read a part of the sentence without full context. If you read the full sentence, it should not create any ambiguity beyond what is already contained in the OP's post. In any case, you claimed that as a woman was problematic first, and now your argument shifts, so I guess we have to stop here. – Dmitry Savostyanov Nov 13 '18 at 19:46
  • @DmitrySavostyanov Well, we can agree to disagree about that. (I firmly disagree.) If you took that clause out I don't think it would harm your post at all, even from your point of view. Obviously, I feel it would massively improve it. –  Nov 13 '18 at 19:48
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    @Araucaria Since you keep changing your notion of what clause you find problematic, it is hard to see what you are suggesting. Maybe you can write your own answer? – Dmitry Savostyanov Nov 13 '18 at 19:51
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    It's the combination of "As a woman" in combination with the (unintended, I'm sure) misattribution of "you feel unhappy about authors not guessing a correct pronoun for you". There's nothing wrong with the second conjunt "not using an appropriate gender-neutral pronoun". I don't think there needs to be another answer plagiarising your main points. It's a good post, imo. I just think that would be a good improvement. That's all. –  Nov 13 '18 at 19:56
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I've found that some non-native English speakers use he for they, because that's how they'd do it in their mother tongue. Perhaps mention in your response (alongside any other language/style/etc.) issues:

Use they, rather than he, when the person's gender is unknown.


From chat:

Most native English speakers over a certain age were taught that the use of "they" to refer to a single person is incorrect (I continue to consider it incorrect).

Indeed, Strunk & White (The Elements of Style) write, "The use of he as a pronoun for nouns embracing both genders is a simple, practical convention rooted in the beginnings of the English language." They go on to add, "Currently, however, many writers find the use of the generic he or his to rename indefinite antecedents limiting or offensive."

But, "Singular they has become the pronoun of choice to replace he and she in cases where the gender of the antecedent – the word the pronoun refers to – is unknown, irrelevant, or nonbinary, or where gender needs to be concealed...that’s nothing new." The OED "traces singular they back to 1375, where it appears in the medieval romance William and the Werewolf."

See Wikipedia for a summary of guidance offered by style guides.

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I don't know what an editor would think of it, but I think it's fine to mention your experience of receiving the review with the incorrect pronoun, as long as (like other answers have said) you allow for the possibility that it was a translation error etc. e.g.

...authors have addressed all issues...

PS. I appreciate this is a relatively minor issue, but as a female reviewer it felt awkward to be referred to as 'he' by the authors.

It may make more sense to do this if there is some action you would like the editor to take, e.g.

Would you consider issuing guidelines to authors and reviewers that they should not presume the gender of their colleagues?

I don't agree that as a reviewer/any other professional role you should have to ignore the discouraging effect that adds up from these interactions.

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    I am not sure I would preface with either, "this is a relatively minor issue", nor with "as a female reviewer". Both cast the issue with your gender rather than the issue at hand which is one of presumption by the author. Nevertheless I agree that this is not something that should be ignored. And, in fact, should be highlighted. – alex Nov 09 '18 at 07:10
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Just drop it.

There are places where it's entirely reasonable for a scholar to start a discussion with a colleague about politically-charged, potentially-inflammatory topics such as microagressions, the appropriateness of using "he" as a genderless pronoun, unintended negative consequence of assuming a random member of a (presumably) male-dominated field is male, etc etc.

Reviewer-author communications are an especially poor choice of such a place.

  • Revealing information about your identity or ideological beliefs threatens your anonymity;
  • Peer reviews are intended to be objective, impartial, and impersonal, and political activism is decidedly off-topic in this context;
  • The review process is already often stressful and tense, and criticism of the author's communication style is more-likely-than-usual to be interpreted as confrontational rather educational.

EDIT: to answer your specific question: as an associate editor, I would do nothing: I would not delete a sufficiently civil correction in the “comments to authors,” nor would I relay anything to the authors if you put it in “private comments to the editor.” I would base all my decisions purely on the technical content of the review.

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    @user2357 even if the majority agree with your interpretation, a non negligible number of people will stridently insists that “I wasn’t assuming gender, I was using a gender neutral pronoun.” It’s just not the argument you want to start in the middle of peer review. – user168715 Nov 02 '18 at 19:54
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    @user2357 You're assuming that they're assuming your gender, which is likely not accurate. While it's less common now than in the past, using the masculine personal pronouns as gender-neutral pronouns is still perfectly valid English and many people (especially from earlier generations) were taught this as being the correct set of pronouns to use. It is extremely likely that the author was neither intending offense nor assuming anyone's gender. – reirab Nov 03 '18 at 17:24
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    @user2357 I've almost consistently used he when referring to users in conversation on the internet, and I have never meant it to assume anyone's gender. If someone corrects me on their gender I accept it and carry on. And I don't treat it as a micro-agression or whatever. What I've come to notice is that people are more likely to use the pronoun that refers to them more often in such situations. There might be a psychological basis for that. I'm not certain. I definitely agree here though. Unless the replier knew their gender beforehand it's likely an unconscious writing habit. – user64742 Nov 03 '18 at 17:57
  • Some comments deleted. Please keep discussion civil. – eykanal Nov 04 '18 at 03:19
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    @eykanal What was uncivil about the deleted comments? I'm curious. How am I going to learn the code necessary to have the right to talk on this website if you never explain your actions? –  Nov 04 '18 at 10:54
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    @user168715 A bit of a nitpick, but it's gender-indefinite, not gender-neutral. The former means you can use it when gender is unknown. The latter means you can use it even if gender is known. – forest Nov 04 '18 at 12:08
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    The response doesn't have to be political or inflammatory. It's just a matter of tone. – henning Nov 04 '18 at 15:29
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If the use of the masculine pronoun to refer to a reviewer of unknown gender is problematic, this is so independently of the gender of the particular reviewer. A formulation like the following allows the reviewer to indicate this without revealing the reviewer's gender. In the reply to the authors the reviewer could write something like the following: Although the following comment is not relevant to my evaluation of the technical merit of the manuscript, the authors are advised that writing "his concerns" when referring to the concerns of an unknown reviewer presupposes that the reviewer is male, and that such an unfounded assumption could be bothersome to some reviewers.

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    While I may not agree with some of your comments above, I do believe this is a very reasonable answer to the question. – CramerTV Nov 02 '18 at 18:24
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    I'd suggest that the current italicized formulation (as of revision 1) makes assumptions about the authors' intent. The phrase "his concerns" might presuppose that the reviewer is male; it might alternately be used with gender-neutral intent because, until recently, prescriptive grammar taught people to use male pronouns for unknown individuals. With respect, stating these assumptions as fact might not adequately cover the possible scenarios. I can't seem to think of a formulation that covers both possibilities yet isn't cumbersome. – Mathieu K. Nov 04 '18 at 02:16
  • Minor point: the "and that" yields uncertainty: does it refer back to being advised, or to being presupposed? – Mathieu K. Nov 04 '18 at 02:34
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    I'd phrase it "could be bothersome to some reviewers.". Otherwise, it's also "gender assumption" thing but in opposite direction. – Agent_L Nov 05 '18 at 09:10
  • @Agent_L: I edited the proposal to make the change you suggest. Additionally, I don't pretend to offer a definitive wording, rather simply something viable, and what I've proposed surely can be improved in various ways. – Dan Fox Nov 05 '18 at 11:24
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    If the editor forwards it, as an author, I would assume that the reviewer's gender is non-male after this comment, as the comment would be totally off-topic for the review otherwise. I don't think reviewers or editors would want to discuss such issues in the review, if there is no good reason to do so. – allo Nov 07 '18 at 21:20
  • I do not think reviewers (and editors) would start to discuss something that's unrelated to the paper during a review, if there is no good reason for it. When a female reviewer feels addressed in the wrong way, it can be an issue, which is worth to be forwarded. If a male reviewer starts arguing "But I could be female and then it would be wrong …", this is a topic to be discussed at another place than during a review process. So assuming a serious review process, I would conclude from still getting this issue forwarded that there was a reason for it, which probably means a female reviewer. – allo Nov 14 '18 at 09:43
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I think you should let this one go.

If you have to use pronouns in situations where you don't know the author's gender, there's always a chance you get it wrong. For example take most questions here on Academia.SE. If you have to refer to the question-asker in a situation where the gender is unknown, do you use 'he' or 'she'? It's either choose one and risk the possibility of getting it wrong, or write 'he or she' everywhere and end up with a very cumbersome answer (not to mention there's still a chance you get it wrong, since it's possible the question-asker identifies as transgender and prefers 'they').

That said, you could write something like this:

The authors have addressed all the issues, and I recommend this paper for publication.

PS: I'm female.

Writing something short like this is unlikely to make the editor groan, and he or she (or they) will probably pass your comment on to the authors. Editors don't usually censor reviewers - that only happens if there's something really inappropriate in the review, and this certainly isn't something inappropriate.

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    "P.S. I am a female" may lead to another issue: as women are underrepresented in many fields, and unfortunately math is one of them, in many areas a comment like this combined with the expertise needed to review the particular paper could likely identify the reviewer.... – Nick S Nov 14 '18 at 15:39
  • @NickS a field would have to be exceedingly male-dominated if there's only one woman who can review a paper though. If there're even two women, then it's still a 50% chance of wrong identification. I would be surprised, but it's up to Rebecca who'll know the field best. – Allure Nov 14 '18 at 21:50
  • I don't think mentioning that you are a woman would realistically enable someone to ''know'' who the reviewer is. – Tom Oct 16 '21 at 16:07
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Should I simply ignore authors assuming I'm male in their response to my review of their article?

I wouldn't. But - I'd try to say something that sounds dispassionate and not very accusative. Paraphrasing @Allure's suggestion, and assuming the authors get a copy of your recommendation, I'd write something like:

The authors have addressed all the issues; the paper is therefore recommended for publication.

PS: In their response to the review, the authors assumed the reviewer was male (e.g. in using references such as "his concerns"). The authors are reminded that is not necessarily the case.

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This has so far been mostly pointed out in the comments, but since comments get culled on topics like this, let me re-state it as an answer:

You don't know whether the authors are actually assuming your gender, or merely using a grammatical rule that you dislike, or aren't even fully conscious of their grammar (e.g., being non-native speakers).

Any response should take this into account: you don't want to assume what the authors are doing either. Thus, as several people on this thread have suggested (often for other reasons), it makes sense to be non-confrontative and not centralize the topic in your response.

The concept of a microaggression, too, does not have the empirical footing that it ought to have before I would start lobbing it as an accusation; google for "microaggression evidence" (e.g., Scott O. Lilienfeld, Microaggressions: Strong Claims, Inadequate Evidence). It isn't hard to draw some lines and define some things to be microaggressions, but the lines will depend heavily on who is drawing them, all while the actual damage done by crossing these lines is far from established. At the very least, the field isn't yet at the point where it can be applied with a resemblance of surety. Correspondingly, whatever you suggest should be a suggestion, not a correction.

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I think your question can be rephrased like this:

Should you do what you think it's right, or should you not, because it is likely to bite you back?

From my experience, nobody likes to be contradicted. Regardless of the context, or even the possible benefits that changing their minds can bring to them, people simply hate it to be contradicted. No matter whom (the journal, the authors, etc) you raise the issue, you'll be perceived as a pain in the ass, smaller or bigger, depending on how diplomatic you are.

What you need to do is to assess 2 things: what you lose and what you gain if you contradict someone. When assessing losses don't forget to include things like the spent effort (like posting this question here) and the virtual losses of debates which you may not have since the current loss will exclude you. When assessing gains don't forget to assess things like the societal impact.

In short: pick your battles. Only you can answer which are worth fighting for.

Edit: People keep misinterpreting my answer, which indicates that it is not clear enough. This is an attempt to clarify it.

Any answer that she should reply about the misuse of the pronoun or that she should let it go, is, in my opinion irresponsible. None of these 2 decisions can be reached simply by using the information provided in the answer. Such a decision should depend on many things, some of which are very personal details about the Original Poster (OP) (some examples are: is she currently involved in a lot of projects, is she currently over stressed, what is her relationship with the journal, does she care about it, can this affect her career, to what extent etc). Due to the nature of such details, I do not expect the OP to clarify the question, but to be helpful, I indicated a basic possible framework, which can help her reach a conclusion of her own.

Most people who already answered here believe she needs a push towards a decision, or a public poll on the matter. Her life is not a democracy, and her personal circumstances are not the same as other people circumstances. It is fair to say what one would do in her position, it is not fair to tell her what to do, from a selfish interest to promote the interests of the answering person, disregarding the possible detrimental effects on the OP and her agenda.

To exemplify, in her position, I would let it go, because I do not think that using the male pronoun as a neutral gender pronoun means anything more than that. I do not think it is non-inclusive, but a mere artifact of how English evolved over thousands of years. Even if it might have had non-inclusive origins (a fact that I do not know of) thousands of years ago, it does not have a non-inclusive meaning now. Still, I personally use they when the gender is not clear, because I know it might bother other people, and whether they are right or wrong, I still don't want to annoy them or disrupt the flow of whatever we were doing.

Even if in OP's position, I would let it go, I do not think that this is the best decision for her to take, because the optimal solution depends on her circumstances, of which I am not, and I cannot be aware of. Simply said, I am not her, and I encourage you, the OP, to carefully look inwards for an answer.

I hope that with my edit, which in my opinion, is just rephrasing and exemplifying my original answer, the answer is more clear now.

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  • @StrongBad I did not consider it not nice, otherwise I would not have wrote it, but I'm not a moderator, so then it is not up to me to ultimately judge what's nice and what's not. You made a call, thanks for the edit. Edit: Apparently I can also edit other people's answers. I was not aware of this until now. Anyway, the edit stays. – Andrei Nov 02 '18 at 16:38
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    Your edit definitely changes things (to me). It now gives an answer of what you would do and as such offered a course of action with an explanation of why. Your previous answer, was "In short: pick your battles ...". That is sound advice for many things in personal and professional life but doesn't really help most folks, imho. I've removed my down vote. – CramerTV Nov 02 '18 at 23:22
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    @Andrei yes with enough rep you can edit anyone's posts. I made the edit as a regular user and not with my super mod powers. The idea is for everyone to improve our community. Your further edits are great and I think this is now a really good answer. – StrongBad Nov 03 '18 at 14:50
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    "Most people who already answered here believe she needs a push towards a decision, or a public poll on the matter." <- Not sure why you're saying that. – einpoklum Nov 03 '18 at 19:42
  • +1, I don't agree with the idea that gender neutral "he" is inclusive, but strongly agree that people dislike being contradicted, and OP's dilemma is about balancing values with practicality. That OP even asked the question suggests that this value is pretty important to her, and probably out ways the practicality. – Clumsy cat Nov 03 '18 at 19:44
  • @CramerTV What I would do, is not relevant. That is why I didn't initially include it. I do not try to persuade the OP to do what I would do. Obviously, now that it's out there, it might influence the OP in a way which might be detrimental. I tried to avoid that. As you said, pick your battles is sound advice for many things in personal and professional life, why wouldn't something you say is sound advice be helpful? – Andrei Nov 06 '18 at 09:57
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Apply Hanlon's razor with great liberty. It is most probably thoughtlessness in this case.

Peer-review is supposed to be a neutral and objective process, which involves the authors not communicating directly with the reviewers. Thus, the authors most probably had no idea you are a woman.

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    I don’t think OP is assuming malice. It’s fairly reasonable to still want to correct this incorrect usage, regardless of intent. – Konrad Rudolph Nov 05 '18 at 12:45
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    However, reviewers are supposed to be anonymous to the authors of the paper. Thus, correcting the use of gender-related pronouns reveals the identity of the reviewer to a certain extent, especially in fields with little women in top positions. If at all, such a correction should be handled by the editor, which leaves open the possibility that the author referred to reviewer B as he, while in truth reviewer D is the woman. – Dohn Joe Nov 05 '18 at 14:35
  • A fair consideration that perhaps reduces the blame from the original author, especially if there was a language issue. Clearly the anonymity must be limited, if the OP is certain the comment in public record refers to her assistance. If there is anonymity during the review process, that suggests there is also moderation where the OP's name has later been inserted, and the moderators clearly need reminding that female invisibility is not acceptable. – Gem Taylor Nov 09 '18 at 12:31
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    It needs to be addressed because QED, it encourages that kind of behaviour which assumes that an academic is male. –  Nov 13 '18 at 23:00
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Firstly, I would check whether the journal has a policy or style guidelines to the effect of using gender-neutral pronouns, and whether the authors are native/non-native speakers of English. If, as you say, you have met one of the authors, you probably can make a strong guess at their nativity.

Case 1: Non-native speaker

Many (I would hazard a guess and say most) non-native speakers, myself included, have been taught never to use "they" in singular. In fact, we received corporal punishments at times if we did that. I learnt about this usage only after I relocated, and since then I've had to consciously convince myself to use it. Secondly, some of the non-English languages I speak, don't have or usually use gender-neutral pronouns. Although that is changing, they are far behind on the curve than English is. Hence, in the case of non-native speakers, I would probably give them a large benefit of doubt.

In this case, I suggest that you write to the editor separately. If they don't have a policy, request that they make one. If they do, explain your experience without naming names and request them to enforce it better.

Case 2: Native speaker

This is would be a more egregious case since we can assume that the person at least knows of this usage, and there's not much room for doubt. In this case, I would go with something like what @user100093 suggests in his answer, except I would modify the 'P. S.' section to say - "This is a relatively minor issue, but I would appreciate it if the authors don't assume the gender of the reviewers in their responses or communications". That way you have made your point without revealing your own gender, thus preserving anonymity.

As to whether the editor would actually pass on the message to the authors - who knows. But I don't believe that you will be immediately branded a troublemaker simply for making this point.

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    Having any P.S. at all would hint that OP is a woman, since no man would add a P.S like that. ... There's basically no way to assert any of OP's characteristics without scratching away anonymity. – Malady Nov 03 '18 at 01:53
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    "This is would be a more egregious case since we can assume that the person at least knows of this usage, and there's not much room for doubt." As a native speaker, I'd disagree. While most native speakers are 'aware' of the gender-neutral 'they' and will understand it, many (especially from older generations) still dislike it, consider it grammatically incorrect, and don't use it. There is a reason your English courses taught you that this usage is incorrect. It's because many native English speakers do still consider it incorrect, even if I'd personally disagree with them. – reirab Nov 03 '18 at 17:28
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    @Malandy For what it's worth, I call out every single instance of gendering I see in responses to my reviews with a note similar to TheJack's suggestion — even though they always correctly assume that I am a man. It is not appropriate for them to bring an imagined gender into things with my reviews, just as it is inappropriate with Rebecca J. Stones'. – Mike Nov 03 '18 at 23:48
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I'd like to write more or less what Dmitry Savostyanov wrote in his answer

It seems that the issue has nothing to do with the manuscript and hence you are not reacting with your reviewer hat on. You are considering your response based on your role as woman/feminist/activist — but not as a reviewer. You are not reviewing the paper, you are reviewing author's communicative behaviour.

but without the last part where he suggests that

As long as you make it clear that you are not commenting as as reviewer of a manuscript, I think you can make this remark to the editor.

I believe the professional thing to do in this context is just ignoring the pronoun, without any remark whatsoever.

It's curious that this question comes more or less at the same time as this one: How to react to a student proselytising during office hours? . I think the two settings are more similar than it seems at first sight. This is a context in which you should focus on content and stick to business, not try to convince the paper's author of his/her mistakes on a matter unrelated to the content of the paper, even if you believe it's for the greater good.

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    It's interesting that you draw that parallel with the proselytization question, because there, everyone seems to agree that when the OP says "I don't want to be put in a similar situation again", there is some right not to be put in that situation, and so the OP should address it directly. Yet here, the OP has been put in a situation she dislikes (and likely will be again in the future), and only speaking up has any chance of changing that, but is being advised that she should not speak up. She's not the one creating this situation; the authors using a masculine pronoun are. – Mike Nov 07 '18 at 16:45
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    @Mike I am not comparing OP here to the professor in that question, I am comparing her to the student. The student tries to convince the professor of his/her mistakes in not following the cult of Cthulhu the Almighty; the fact that there are so many unbelievers is a situation he dislikes, and he believes he is acting for the greater good. – Federico Poloni Nov 08 '18 at 12:00
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    I understood what you were trying to imply. What I am saying is that you choose to overlook the fact that the OP here did not ask to be referred to in the masculine; you're suggesting that she's starting something by responding to unprofessional behavior. Apparently the other OP had not brought up any religious beliefs whatsoever before the student started proselytizing. Similarly, this OP had not brought gender into the discussion before she was referred to with a male pronoun. In both cases, the OP has been subjected to something they find unpleasant and unprofessional. – Mike Nov 08 '18 at 13:44
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    @Mike I think the consensus here is that the use of that pronoun is probably involuntary. It's OP who is planning to bring gender into the discussion and derailing what has been up to now a professional exchange. – Federico Poloni Nov 08 '18 at 13:51
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Well, to bring up a point that only seems to have been in comments...

If you don't care about your anonymity, or those whose anonymity partially depends on your anonymity, then go ahead and say you're a woman.

Else, you might have to say nothing, because by making a note about gendered pronouns, could be taken to hint that you are a woman, because a man is assumed to be less likely to bring the topic up.

Although, men do make such notes, as Mike says in his comment:

I (a man) always tell authors who refer to me by gender that it is inappropriate to bring an imagined gender into a technical discussion.


Is this blind-bag reviewing, or not?

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  • In a sufficiently small academic community, revealing one's identity compromises the anonymity of others. 2. Pointing out usage of a gendered pronoun reveals nothing about one's own gender
  • – trichoplax is on Codidact now Nov 05 '18 at 21:07
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    @trichoplax - How... Oh, okay, adding 1. ... On 2. ... It feels more likely that more women would find the gendered pronoun notable than men would, so pointing out the usage hints that the speaker is a woman? – Malady Nov 05 '18 at 21:27
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    I don't have statistics to say either way, but it may well be that in a field with more men than women, there are more men objecting to gendered pronouns than women. But even in a field where an objector is statistically more likely to be female, only a likelihood is being revealed, not a concrete gender. Also there are plenty of men who feel strongly about this, and plenty of women who don't care either way. – trichoplax is on Codidact now Nov 05 '18 at 22:17
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    As I mentioned in another comment, I (a man) always tell authors who refer to me by gender that it is inappropriate to bring an imagined gender into a technical discussion. This is just one more way in which it's a bad idea to try to divine the referee's identity by over-interpreting details in the response. In any case, what better time to try to effect change than in an anonymous setting? – Mike Nov 07 '18 at 14:42
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    @Mike - Thank you! Added to the answer. Not sure how to use the rest of your comment since it seems off-topic from the core of my answer. You do raise some good points. – Malady Nov 08 '18 at 03:23